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Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:19 pm
by christopher:::
meindzai wrote:Meaning we'd probably all have to re-register, and we would no posts associated with our names. And there are a great deal of moderators with different permissions to different parts of the forum. And people might not register with the same names as before, so if there was a restore, it'd be hard to know who was who. There's also the banned users and IPs. Gives me a headache to think about it!

-M
It's only a headache if one feels compelled to recreate the past, perfectly...

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:56 pm
by tiltbillings
christopher::: wrote:
meindzai wrote:Meaning we'd probably all have to re-register, and we would no posts associated with our names. And there are a great deal of moderators with different permissions to different parts of the forum. And people might not register with the same names as before, so if there was a restore, it'd be hard to know who was who. There's also the banned users and IPs. Gives me a headache to think about it!

-M
It's only a headache if one feels compelled to recreate the past, perfectly...
It is silly not to restart the forum, if needs be from scratch. A new beginning and maybe a chance to undo some of the very serious mistakes of the past.

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:21 am
by Paññāsikhara
From what I've heard, the membership database is still fine and intact.
It was only the posts database that has the problem.

Maybe I'll try to get in contact with Leo today, and Todd too, and see what's up.

:)

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:21 am
by Karunika
They are still working on the problem, which also involves the web host.

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:53 am
by Su Dongpo
dharmagoat wrote:Hello David,

Recently I found that I was unable to log into BuddhistCommunity using FireFox because of the warning that you describe. I am now successfully logging in using Internet Explorer with no signs of malware... yet.
I just alerted my buddy Goat to a related concern, so this is a general announcement for anyone else attempting to use the Buddhist-Community site. It has almost certainly been hacked, perhaps by the same person(s) who've messed up e-sangha, or perhaps through a malware spread from e-sangha to B-C. Either way, if you get the warning I just got while using FireFox to check in on Buddhist-Community -- the same, or similar, to that quoted above warning of malicious downloads, etc. -- I highly recommend you do NOT attempt to gain entry to the site with IE. IE is notorious for its vulnerability to malware. Remember, most hackers are aiming at Microsoft products, or at least that is the word I have gotten from my techie friends. If you think you MUST visit a site you know has problems, a Linux OS is probably the safest route.

I am not saying you will automatically foul up your OS if you visit Buddhist-Community, but until the kinks get worked out and security is restored, I believe it is better to stay away and not to try to circumvent security warnings with alternate browsers. If you do, you're asking for trouble, and we all know what happens when you go asking for trouble....

Stay safe and be well.
heybai

And now for the real reason I came here: :popcorn: :alien: :stirthepot: :juggling: :group: :toast: :jedi: :rofl: :soap: :cry: :heart: :hug: :buddha2: :anjali: :toilet: :rules: :yingyang: :computerproblem: :oops: :coffee: :guns: :clap: :soap: :popcorn: :buddha1:

cheerios --
:anjali:

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:56 am
by tiltbillings
They should simply cut their losses and start from scratch or just scratch e-sangha off. We can then hold a memorial service.

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:59 am
by Su Dongpo
tiltbillings wrote:They should simply cut their losses and start from scratch or just scratch e-sangha off. We can then hold a memorial service.
I don't know any more about the problem than I've read in this thread, but I don't see why e-sangha should be abandoned permanently. Perhaps the database of old postings will have to go, but I bet many of the best materials can be re-posted.

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:37 am
by christopher:::
Paññāsikhara wrote:From what I've heard, the membership database is still fine and intact.
It was only the posts database that has the problem.
If this is indeed true, they'd be able to Re-create the Cup, without the Tea... A much respected approach in the Zen Buddhist tradition...

A Cup of Tea

:anjali:

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:58 am
by tiltbillings
christopher::: wrote:A much respected approach in the Zen Buddhist tradition...
Some of us might see a touch of ironical humor in that.

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:06 am
by pink_trike
heybai wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:They should simply cut their losses and start from scratch or just scratch e-sangha off. We can then hold a memorial service.
I don't know any more about the problem than I've read in this thread, but I don't see why e-sangha should be abandoned permanently.
Setting aside the question of motives for creating such an environment, I think the whole premise of a massive "Buddhism Central" talk-atorium covering nearly all traditions with 20 thousand members needs to be carefully rethought, setting aside any knee-jerk tendencies toward "Buddhism is good in any form" and looking at the potential negative effects such a massive electronic talk-atorium may have had on the viewing public and on the body of knowledge known as "Buddhism". We don't even fully comprehend the negative effects of television on the human mind and society after 70 years in existence. What might be the toll of such a large scale electronic fora on a body of thought and knowledge and on the thousands of average under-informed viewers who are being introduced to Buddhism in this wild west environment?

Setting aside this concern, if there is to be a "Buddhism Central" then at the very least the Buddhist community would be better served if the forum had a board of directors made up of ordained teachers from every tradition because what fool would believe that a forum with such traffic could be ruled like a fiefdom?

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:13 am
by retrofuturist
:focus:

Please keep posts related to E-Sangha and their technical issues only. Off topic posts may be removed.

Thank you for your co-operation.

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:17 am
by christopher:::
tiltbillings wrote:
christopher::: wrote:A much respected approach in the Zen Buddhist tradition...
Some of us might see a touch of ironical humor in that.
:tongue:
retrofuturist wrote::focus:

Please keep posts related to E-Sangha and their technical issues only. Off topic posts may be removed.

Thank you for your co-operation.

Metta,
Retro. :)
sorry!

:bow:

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:02 pm
by Dhammanucara
So is now Esangha accessible? Because right now, I still cant access it. :|

Metta,
Dhammanucara

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:11 pm
by Ben
Hi Dhammanucara,
You've answered your own question.
kind regards

Ben

Re: E-sangha news

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:16 pm
by Laurens
I don't think I'll be using e-sangha again, even if it does get up and running. Its probably not the topic to say exactly why. I feel that this is a much better forum though, I like it here :D