Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by DooDoot » Thu May 23, 2019 9:44 am

Ceisiwr wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 pm
lol if only
Your views are contrary to sutta, which were already posted. Sutta says women are protected by family until married. Sutta does not say the same about men. Sutta specifically says sexual misconduct is the particular stain of a woman.
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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by Ceisiwr » Thu May 23, 2019 9:48 am

DooDoot wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:44 am
Ceisiwr wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 pm
lol if only
Your views are contrary to sutta, which were already posted. Sutta says women are protected by family until married. Sutta does not say the same about men. Sutta specifically says sexual misconduct is the particular stain of a woman.

Huh? That comment was in relation to binocular and enlightenment

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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by DooDoot » Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 am

Ceisiwr wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Huh? That comment was in relation to binocular and enlightenment
That too!
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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by Ceisiwr » Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 am

What? Make sense.

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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by DooDoot » Thu May 23, 2019 9:53 am

Ceisiwr wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 am
What? Make sense.
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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by Ceisiwr » Thu May 23, 2019 9:54 am

DooDoot wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:53 am
Ceisiwr wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 am
What? Make sense.
:focus: it’s difficult reading & writing on iPhone SE at the beach at night

Then perhaps practice patience and reply when you are at home/in the light.

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Re: Do women have more "dhammic" underlying motives for being horny than men?

Post by perkele » Sun May 26, 2019 6:49 am

binocular wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 4:25 pm
perkele wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:14 am
I found it questionable whether these concerns generally translate into "dhammic" motivations, which, again, is something I thought Master DooDoot might have been implying.

This is actually still not clear to me. Both:
a) whether that is something Master DooDoot was implying
b) whether it is true
In hindsight, there appear to be some issues around the definition of the term "dhammic", and those have been addressed in the meantime ...

Right. And as if all men were essentially the same, in the way they view the objects of their sexual desire without any "dhammic" concerns, unless they have somehow found the underlying dhammic motivations of women (which are all the same).
Surely a point of concern and envy in discussing this topic is the inherent sexual inequality and physical inequality of men and women, in the sense that men aren't the ones who get pregnant or who would need to concern themselves with that.
So that esp. women might be led to think something like, "Oh, you're a man, you don't have to care about anything." So a person thinking that could be led to conclude, perhaps unjustly, that all men, that is, men as a category, are like that.

In a hedonistic culture where pregnancy is often viewed as a negative side-effect of engaging in sex, men, as the one category who by default cannot become pregnant, can be seen as superior and envied because of that, and thus deified.
In this culture, men get to view women as their sex toilets. Since men are not the ones who could get pregnant (ie. face the negative side-effects of sex), why wouldn't they use this as their advantage? Why wouldn't they see women as their sex toilets, if they can see them that way?

Can you give one good reason why a man wouldn't see a woman merely as a sex toilet? Why should a man have dhammic (or Dhammic) motivations for sex, when there's nothing forcing him to do so (such as the potential to become pregnant)?

Thanks for clearly addressing my points of contention.
I have been too busy, and still am at the moment, to produce a thoughtful reply, although I do have some thoughts.
I will come back to this topic later, insha'Allah.
Until then, may the Schwartz be with you!


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Oh oh, when the enlightened cross swords!
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