Sam Vara wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:47 pm
User1249x wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:36 pm
Well change the addict to a person, change the sober for 8FNP, change the crack to sensuality and the crack-house to Samsara you will see the connection there.
I can't see any connection, I'm afraid. Try it again with a plain account rather than a lurid metaphor and I'll see if I get it then.
Well i will try in my own words
Person A) on confidence takes it that Indulging in sensual pleasure is wrong/evil/bad and has bad long term expected result but having settled on a mode of practice he does not let it make or break his progress and is moderated by his training regiment for the time being (precept or his own personal rules, goals and challenges)
He occasionally reflects on the drawbacks of sensuality, occasionally he reflects wrongly on sensuality, he reflects thus both wrongly and rightly on sensuality, according to reality and not according to reality. Such person can be expected to eventually clearly perceive the drawbacks in sensuality.
Person B) Does not take it on confidence and acts by default on the view the that Indulging in sensual pleasure is not wrong/evil/bad and has a good or neutral long term expected result. Such person rarely if ever reflects on the drawbacks of sensuality and often reflect wrongly on it as in not in accordance with reality. This person is not expected to clearly perceive the drawbacks in sensuality.
So if you put them these students together without imposing rules of conduct on them B will distract A and might even convince A of his wrong view.