SDC wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:25 pm
What is preventing you from ordaining? It is the first question that comes to mind when I see practitioners trying to "monastify the laity". I used to be one btw. I'm honestly curious what you think about this and wondering if it is something you have considered. If you prefer such a strict lifestyle, why not ordain where the conditions are already the way you prefer? Why put the pressure on the laity?
I have debt. I hope that I will ordain once that's gone.
I am not saying that all lay people should behave like monastics, to expect this is unrealistic. But lay people should understand that not doing such is a fault in them. The path is gradual, I'm not denying this either. But when one is at the beginning of the path they are more prone to suffering & less prone to liberation. This is just the reality of it, while we must tolerate people being at all stages of the path we should not pretend that the ideal for each & every being isn't total renunciation, total virtue, total & utter full-time commitment to the practice. Yet again, it takes beings time to reach this - due to their defilements. But I'm going to recommend to lay people that they go all-out, all the way, so there is no room for fooling oneself about the nature of one's lifestyle & for denying what the true goal & ideal is.
Besides, even if someone is going to live a lay life their whole life it is not "monastifying" for them to uphold the 8 precepts, which abstinence from video games would fall under. It was typical in the Buddha's time for the most devout lay people to do this. I myself uphold them nearly every day, with my immediate goal in practice to quickly make that permanent. It's not so hard when one reflects on this Dhamma & understands what the goal is, which is to give up everything.
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on Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
susukhaṃ vata nibbānaṃ,
asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ,
yattha dukkhaṃ nirujjhatī
Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases
etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ panītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ
This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.