Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

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Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by Subharo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:25 am

Dear Dhammawheel moderators and sysadmins (such as RetroFuturist, DNS, etc.),

Thank you for being so cool on this forum. I think you do a great job of not falling into contention and ill will, as various difficult anonymous cowards voice their strong views, and generally eel-wriggle and refuse to engage in polite, civilized, substantiated discussion (which seems to be a dying art on the internet). Such behaviour saps away at the community's good will, which is a precious resource.

Thank you for being so Buddhist. You demonstrate impressive patience and tolerance. Thank you for your efforts to build a Buddhist community, and standing up for the teachings of the Buddha.

PS: I also heaped some gratitude on the SuttaCentral admins over here. These very same sentiments apply here as well.

I am very grateful that DhammaWheel exists, and I hope this site has a good long life, not being overrun with intolerant, unreasonable, immoderate extremists.

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Re: Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:45 am

Greetings,

Thank you for the kind words bhante.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Post by DNS » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:51 am

Thanks, Bhante!

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Re: Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by Subharo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:11 pm

I have a little Buddhamas gift for you two (if you don't already have one), as a token of gratitude. This made me laugh. At the website https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ , at the bottom of the page one can download a free .pdf, which lists all the possible logical fallacies in a nice poster format. Makes a nice reference beside your computer, printed out.

Personally, my favorite fallacy was the "No true Scotsman" fallacy: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman

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Post by retrofuturist » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:52 pm

Greetings bhante,

Nice! I'd love if these logical fallacies were more commonly taught in high schools... it really would improve the calibre of conversation!

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by SarathW » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:36 am

Personally, my favorite fallacy was the "No true Scotsman" fallacy
I like black or white.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
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Re: Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by Subharo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:54 am

SarathW wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:36 am
Personally, my favorite fallacy was the "No true Scotsman" fallacy
I like black or white.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
I've had that one foisted upon me several times by ordained monastics, whom I won't name (so as to not stir up contention). They tried to bust a "George W." on me, effectively saying that I was basically "either with them or against them." I mention this as a "public service announcement", as in, watch out people, this fallacy is currently floating around in the world of Buddhism.

PS: another big one to watch out for (again, I would prefer not to name names so as to not stir up contention), in current circulation: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

PPS: did I just make unsubstantiated claims here? Yes I did. I admit to that. But I've decided not to provide further substantiation in order to protect myself. You can ignore these claims as you see fit, as they are admittedly unproven (on purpose).

At least I'm demonstrating a willingness to shed light on the topic of fallacies in general, to empower people to spot them more easily once they crop up in the future, in their own lives.
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Re: Gratitude to DhammaWheel admins and moderators

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 am

Greetings bhante,
Subharo wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:54 am
"either with them or against them"
... ugh.

I've been on the end of that one... not only is it a logical fallacy, it's very disrespectful to another's intellectual autonomy, and the fact that others' minds may not be so narrow.

Certainly not a good attitude in a family or community setting...

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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