VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by lyndon taylor » Mon May 14, 2018 10:19 am

I see racism on Dhammawheel and that makes me sad!!
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by JiWe2 » Mon May 14, 2018 1:16 pm

Kamran wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 8:02 am
The municipal code had something about charcoal type grills not being allowed, but would you do something like this?
No, I wouldn't. But if I wanted charcoal bbq I'd try to use a place where charcoal bbq is allowed. And if I wasn't aware of the rules and regulations and someone mentioned them to me, I'd rather try to correct my mistake than shoot the messenger.

Posting this silly little thing on Youtube, now almost one million views and thousands of comments ridiculing that white woman? I wouldn't do that to anyone.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Kamran » Mon May 14, 2018 2:42 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:45 am
Greetings,
lyndon taylor wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:10 am
If you deny the racism, you're part of the problem!!
If you see racism in anything and everything, you might just be a 21st century Democrat.

:focus:

Metta,
Paul. :)
I agree the racism card may be getting overblown in US. It was just an unfortunate situation, and should not be blown out of proportion. Still, in some of these cases the person calling police on blacks should at least be fined for harrasment (the one white girls that keeps calling police on blacks wrongly at Yale, for instance.)

Its nothing like the racism that America supported in South Africa or what happened in Israel today:

41 un armed Palestinians killed protesting US Embassy move to Jerusalem.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/worl ... bassy.html

Azealia Banks (black singer) says she is never going back to racist Israel
https://forward.com/schmooze/400742/yal ... urning-to/
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by dharmacorps » Mon May 14, 2018 5:01 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 3:45 am

Maybe it just goes to show how little actual racism there actually is when the "race bait" being offered is of such poor quality.
Well, there is plenty of racism out there in the world and even in Oakland, but at least in the bay area its hopelessly intertwined with this quasi liberal echo chamber entitlement making discussion of these things in anything resembling a realistic way impossible.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by manas » Tue May 15, 2018 3:26 am

rightviewftw wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 7:29 am

rename it to woman harassed for enforcing park policy?
It's fashionable atm to demonize white folks at the slightest suspicion of racism, even when all the facts are not known, just as mere accusations of sexual assault (often a decade or so after the alleged event), are destroying the careers of many men, even before they get a fair trial in a court of law. Of course if sexual assault can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, lock the offenders up, but some men (such a Bill Cosby, for example) have even been convicted on quite shaky evidence in a court of law; it's as though if enough folks accuse someone of something, that counts as 'evidence' nowadays (if the accusers are female and the accused is male).
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue May 15, 2018 3:51 am

So its not racist for a white woman to accuse a black family of trespassing in a public park. Just goes to show how easy it is to defend racism on this forum, sad commentary on our readership.
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by retrofuturist » Tue May 15, 2018 4:44 am

Greetings Lyndon,
lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 3:51 am
So its not racist for a white woman to accuse a black family of trespassing in a public park. Just goes to show how easy it is to defend racism on this forum, sad commentary on our readership.
Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend?

Race is irrelevant to the situation.

Someone called police because some people were in violation of the park rules.

What is sad is that some people cannot help themselves but to interject race into each and every situation, and go on to make unfounded moral accusations against others on those grounds. As such, your aspersions on "our readership" are weak and pathetic.

Please desist from violating the rules of the News section, because just like the park users, you're in violation of the rules. My race, nor yours, has zero to do with it...

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Kamran » Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:44 am
Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend?

Race is irrelevant to the situation.

Someone called police because some people were in violation of the park rules.
That's not true.

Given the politically charged environment, she must have known that the situation could turn violent or even deadly.

Whether she was racist or not, we don't know. We do know that she created a very dangerous situation over a trifling matter.

“When you engage law enforcement in these kinds of things you are opening the door for things to go very wrong, the potential for arrests like in Philadelphia with those two black men or worse physical assault or death and I don’t believe in this day and age that white folks don’t know that,” said Brooks.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/11/ ... blic-park/
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by retrofuturist » Tue May 15, 2018 6:20 am

Greetings Kamran,
Kamran wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 am
That's not true.
You can say this all you like, but merely saying this doesn't necessarily make it so.
Kamran wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 am
Given the politically charged environment, she must have known that the situation could turn violent or even deadly.
... and this makes her calling the police blameworthy how, exactly?

:shrug:

What a perverse society we live in if the innocent are blamed for the unwholesome actions and short temper of others.
Kamran wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 am
Whether she was racist or not, we don't know. We do know that she created a very dangerous situation over a trifling matter.
The behaviours of one person are not the fault of another. Calling the police when the law is being broken is not a blameworthy action.

Has the doctrine of kamma taught us nothing about where responsibility for violence and evil falls? Society rots away when individuals are not held accountable for their own actions and reactions.

:shrug:

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Paul. :)
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Mr Man » Tue May 15, 2018 6:43 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:44 am

Race is irrelevant to the situation.

How do you know that?

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by retrofuturist » Tue May 15, 2018 6:45 am

Greetings,
Mr Man wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:43 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:44 am

Race is irrelevant to the situation.
How do you know that?
Person A calls the police because they witness Persons B & C breaking the law.

Must the operation of law and order be perverted based on immutable characteristics of these persons, or does the concept of "blind justice" still apply?

Or has the West degraded so far that "blind justice" is no longer even desired, let alone delivered?

Has the cancer of moral relativism infected too many minds?

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Mr Man » Tue May 15, 2018 6:53 am

Paul, you asserted
retrofuturist wrote: Race is irrelevant to the situation.
How do you know that?

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by retrofuturist » Tue May 15, 2018 6:55 am

Greetings Mr Man,
Mr Man wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:53 am
Paul, you asserted
retrofuturist wrote: Race is irrelevant to the situation.
How do you know that?
Because I concisely summarized the situation from a legal perspective.

Namely, "Person A calls the police because they witness Persons B & C breaking the law."

Again, when someone is breaking the law, it is still breaking the law, regardless of their race, religion, sexuality, gender, and so forth.

If you wish for it to be otherwise, do please present your case to us.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Mr Man » Tue May 15, 2018 7:11 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:55 am
Greetings Mr Man,
Mr Man wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:53 am
Paul, you asserted
retrofuturist wrote: Race is irrelevant to the situation.
How do you know that?
Because I concisely summarized the situation from a legal perspective.

Namely, "Person A calls the police because they witness Persons B & C breaking the law."

Again, when someone is breaking the law, it is still breaking the law, regardless of their race, religion, sexuality, gender, and so forth.

If you wish for it to be otherwise, do please present your case to us.

Metta,
Paul. :)
The legal perspective does not mean that race is irrelevant to the situation (Were they even breaking the law?).

According to the report (below the you tube video on you tube) a racial epithet was used.
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