VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by rightviewftw » Tue May 15, 2018 2:54 pm

I am gonna argue a different take on it and say that if one goes on to reproach someone for grilling in the wrong place and they are being dismissive then the optimal behavior is to shrug it off and move along, surely appealing to authority and enforcing the regulations is not something expected at this point. So it is probably due to a conditioned predisposition for aversion and ill-will.

I still think people are being trolled with this racist non-sense, i think racism is a loosely defined term that is nowadays rather successfully is being used to shame and predatorize people first and foremost. Classical racism is actually a rather rare set of beliefs nowadays but i expect most people to differentiate and generalize between the in and out groups based on race under certain circumstances.

In case of this woman let's assume that she would go as far as saying "dem blacks are acting as if they own the place so i called the cops". Even in that case unless she thinks that all black people are the same etc, she is not really a racist but is rather poorly expressing frustration and ill-will, as well as generalizing on account of what would be called "tribalism" and delusion in general. It is kind of hard to explain this but acting and thinking in racist ways is a poor diagnostical tool for a set of beliefs that would be deemed inherently racist.

Generalizations and conventions are in general useful but sometimes they are way off.

This is also why people may seem and act racist but still claim to have friends of other race and or admire individuals from the out-group. Has to do with conditioned perception, generalization and reinforcement.

Perhaps a couple of good terms would be "conventional racism" and "effective racism" or similar, think prison enviroment for illustration. How i see it is that what happens in prisons is kind of happening on the outside as well but on a more subtle level.
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by rightviewftw » Tue May 15, 2018 4:01 pm

I think that changing the general population tendencies and making society less racist is akin to abolishing caste-system in the times of the Buddha, it can be temporarily achieved to a degree but will require incredibly non-delusional and influential individuals.
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by DNS » Tue May 15, 2018 4:03 pm

Kamran wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 am
Whether she was racist or not, we don't know. We do know that she created a very dangerous situation over a trifling matter.
I agree, we can't know from the information we have. If she would called the police on white people doing the same thing, then it would appear race is not an issue. If she only calls on black people having a bbq then it would be racism, but with the information we have, we don't know how she would have reacted to white people having a bbq.

I agree that she called the police over a trifling matter, so is blameworthy in that regard. The person taking the video also shares some blame in making a spectacle of the situation. If it was left for the police, the police would most likely have dismissed it peacefully.

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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by rightviewftw » Tue May 15, 2018 4:11 pm

DNS wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:03 pm
If she would called the police on white people doing the same thing, then it would appear race is not an issue. If she only calls on black people having a bbq then it would be racism, but with the information we have, we don't know how she would have reacted to white people having a bbq.
Id like to extrapolate on this
Other matters of interest are
how it would play out had the woman been black
how it would play out if the the men were white being reproached by a black woman
how it would play out if the the men were white being reproached by a white woman
how the public reacts in the variations
how the media reacts in the variations

analysis of a few hundred simulations would be a contrast to this race-bait of a "news story"
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Re: VIDEO: White woman calls police on Blacks having a BBQ at the lake.

Post by Pseudobabble » Tue May 15, 2018 8:20 pm

rightviewftw wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:11 pm
Id like to extrapolate on this
Other matters of interest are
how it would play out had the woman been black
how it would play out if the the men were white being reproached by a black woman
how it would play out if the the men were white being reproached by a white woman
how the public reacts in the variations
how the media reacts in the variations

analysis of a few hundred simulations would be a contrast to this race-bait of a "news story"
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