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POMPEO is in Saudi Today: his interesting message

Post by Kamran » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:08 pm

Pompeo's is in Saudi Arabia and urged the Saudis to end the Yemen war, and focus on confronting Iran.

Pompeo highlighted Iran's effective tactics:

How Iran was able to divert Saudi's resources away from Syrian by tricking the Saudis into a Vietnam style quagmire in Yemen.

If Israel or US threats against Iran seem more likely, then with just a small amount of money and direction from Iran, suddenly the US will find itself in Afghanistan quagmire, or maybe Bahrain will be the next quagmire, who knows.

For Israel, too, with just a tiny bit of money Iran can bog them down in a never ending fight against the Palestinians or Lebanese Hezbollah.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... s-54802858
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Post by Bundokji » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:08 am

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This was the last word of the Tathagata.

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Post by DooDoot » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:48 am

Its the same insanity since 2011. First the proxy army of ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc, funded & supported by the US-NATO-Saudi-Qatar-Israel group. When this war was lost; fake chemical attacks were done to justify US-France-UK intervention (although Israel has been bombing continually); and now more fake chemical attacks used to justify Israel war against Syria. Haaretz spams my computer & has been frothing out the mouth all day. All signs of the decline of the US Empire & its growing lawlessness (totalitarianism). Good luck Buddhist Liberals that support international lawlessness due to the demons the media manufactures (sankhara). The tyrants will catch up soon. The ex-Gulagians that delight in murdering in Gaza are training US police forces. The chance to exercise freedom was not taken but now must fall back on samatha-vipassana if can cross over the abbess of Dark Night of the Soul. :|
Syria Strike Was So Powerful, It Registered as an Earthquake

Israel will continue to operate freely in Syria, defense minister says
Strike likely targeted surface-to-surface missiles Iran seeks to deploy in Syria
Syria army: 'Enemy' missiles strike two bases; Iranians among dozens reportedly killed

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... gn=General
Analysis Syria Strike: Winds of War in Jerusalem – With Backing From Washington
Israel is determined to oust Iran from Syria, but if it miscalculates, Hezbollah and Hamas could be thrown into the ring. Netanyahu is prepared to undertake risks - bordering on gambling

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.6036140
Lol... Haaretz can't stop the blood lust. Just keeps popping the same blood lust into my computer. All day, while working, I see this crazed madness of unfettered self-cherishing. Thank you Buddha for the True Dhamma; that lifts up from the tiracchānayoni. :thumbsup: :meditate:
Syria Army: 'Enemy' Missiles Strike Two Bases; 11 Iranians Reportedly Killed
Syrian media report attributes attack to U.S. and Britain ■ Reports say dozens killed, mostly Iranians ■ Pro-Assad media blames Israel for the strike ■ Bases bombed used as missile warehouses by Syria, Iran ■ Iranian media report denies Iranian casualties in the strike

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... gn=General

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Post by DooDoot » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:27 pm

lol... Hareetz is a classic. The Chosen of God; the Light Unto the Nations. :roll: :|
Israel Told U.S. and Russia It Will Retaliate if Iran Attacks From Syria
Officials believe Israel should strike Iran if Tehran carries out attacks against population centers through Syria or Hezbollah. Defense officials, on the other hand, caution against taking the conflict out of Syria's borders

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/isr ... gn=General
Here, only one group is actually making war but keep alleging the other group wants to make war. How inspiring has the restraint been of the Syrians, Russians & Hezbollah against constant foreign attacks. As Bassar Al Assad said: ""Good souls will not be humiliated". Unfortunately, there is no God to save anyone or administer justice & obviously the inventors of this invention of "God" know this well. :meditate: :pig:

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Post by DooDoot » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:27 pm

When do the lies stop (which started at 9/11)? When will the people ('puthujjana ;) ) demand a return to the rule of law; including guilt proven with evidence? Lies about:

* Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (who were airlifted to Pakistan)

* WMD's in Iraq

* No fly zone & killing his own people in Libya

* Chemical attacks & killing his own people in Syria

* Poisoning of ex-Russian diplomat in UK

* Iran nuclear program

Another major war will for the US and Western nations:

* Increase US govt debt (paid by the taxpayer)

* Reduce US social security for the poor & needy

* Increase oil prices (for the world economy & consumer)

* Increase interest rates (for the world economy & consumer)

* Cause stock market and other asset prices to fall, resulting in harmful deleverage (selling of loan funded assets).

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Post by retrofuturist » Tue May 01, 2018 9:42 am

Greetings DooDoot,

Peace is coming to Iran.

Metta,
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Post by Traveler8 » Tue May 01, 2018 1:17 pm

When you say you want to destroy Israel and support its enemies, you can be sure they will do everything to stop you. You play dirty, they can do it dirtier, and their big daddy is stronger.

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Post by Bundokji » Tue May 01, 2018 5:25 pm

Morocco severs ties with Iran, accusing it of backing Polisario Front

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-moro ... SKBN1I23VF
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Post by Kamran » Tue May 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Bundokji wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 5:25 pm
Morocco severs ties with Iran, accusing it of backing Polisario Front

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-moro ... SKBN1I23VF
US soldier killed in Afghanistan today.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40232491

Iran can force Americans to send more soldiers to Afghanistan whenever it wants to.

Wasn't it Che Guevara that said defeat the Americans by creating many Vietnams?
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Post by Bundokji » Tue May 01, 2018 7:05 pm

Kamran wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 6:33 pm

US soldier killed in Afghanistan today.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40232491

Iran can force Americans to send more soldiers to Afghanistan whenever it wants to.

Wasn't it Che Guevara that said defeat the Americans by creating many Vietnams?
Iran is a major regional power and can do a lot of damage if they push it too much. However, Iran has its own problems, its currency depreciated a lot recently, the unemployment rate it high in a relatively young and ambitious population. Also there are reports that there is a lot of disease among Iranian people in relation to the wealth of the country being spent supporting Iran's proxies. Today i encountered a report on Aljazeera estimating the cost of the Iranian presence in Syria and supplying the Assad regime with weapons to be between 6 and 20 billion dollars a year.

One powerful tool other than destabilizing the region Iran might use in the case of war is the closure of the strait of Hormuz. This would send the price of oil to unprecedented levels.

In my short life time, i witnessed many wars in the Middle East, not directly, but the effects of them were obvious where i live. This coming war, if it does happen, will be the ugliest. In wars, there are no winners.
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Post by Traveler8 » Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm

The main problem with Syria and Yemen is that the absolute victory of either side would leave significant part of population being dominated and they would just wait another opportunity to rebel against the government. If Shia wins in both countries, it would mean they get to dominate over Sunni majorities, and if Sunni wins they get to dominate over Shia and other minorities. Foreign forces are not necessary to create these long standing conflicts, but if they want to instigate them, they can easily find many people willing to fight. It's really hard to say what's the real solution there. To choose between America and their allies vs Iran and their allies, is like choosing between Alien vs Predator.

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Post by Bundokji » Tue May 01, 2018 7:36 pm

Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
The main problem with Syria and Yemen is that the absolute victory of either side would leave significant part of population being dominated and they would just wait another opportunity to rebel against the government. If Shia wins in both countries, it would mean they get to dominate over Sunni majorities, and if Sunni wins they get to dominate over Shia and other minorities. Foreign forces are not necessary to create these long standing conflicts, but if they want to instigate them, they can easily find many people willing to fight. It's really hard to say what's the real solution there. To choose between America and their allies vs Iran and their allies, is like choosing between Alien vs Predator.
Ironically, western intervention in the region only served to increase Iran's influence. During the Iraq-Iran war, the vast majority of the Iraqi army were Shia and yet the fought against Iran. After the invasion of Iraq, the current government (which is democratically elected) chose to make an alliance with Iran.

Before the western and Israeli intervention in Lebanon, there was no Hizbullah. Also the war against Yemen strengthen the relationship between Iran and the Houthis.

The relationship between the Syrian regime and Iran goes beyond the current conflict. During the war between Iraq and Iran, Syria was the only Arab country to support Iran, and their motive had nothing to do with sectarianism, but they had terrible relationship with the Iraqi Baath Party ruling Iraq (even though their ruling party is the Baath party as well!).

The rift between Sunni and Shia has its roots in history, but its current version is triggered by western intervention.
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Post by Bundokji » Tue May 01, 2018 7:45 pm

Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
The main problem with Syria and Yemen is that the absolute victory of either side would leave significant part of population being dominated and they would just wait another opportunity to rebel against the government. If Shia wins in both countries, it would mean they get to dominate over Sunni majorities, and if Sunni wins they get to dominate over Shia and other minorities. Foreign forces are not necessary to create these long standing conflicts, but if they want to instigate them, they can easily find many people willing to fight. It's really hard to say what's the real solution there. To choose between America and their allies vs Iran and their allies, is like choosing between Alien vs Predator.
It is also worth noting that Iran does not only support Shia rebels, but they support the under-privileged in general. For example, Kurds are considered a threat to the long term security of Iran due to their ambition to re-establish historical Kurdistan (which a part of it belongs to today's Iran), and yet, Iran supported them against Saddam Hussein and supported them in the their recent war against ISIS.

Iran supports Hamas in Gaza who are Sunni. The Polisario Front are also not Shia as far as i know.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

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Post by DooDoot » Tue May 01, 2018 10:03 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:42 am
Peace is coming to Iran.
Like peace came to Iraq, Libya & Syria? My dear Paul, we get out of our depth when there is a lack of information & the impression of Anglophile hubris or exceptionalism. I think we need to reflect on the basics of moral law, which includes the norms of International Law (rather than get lost in the hubris of totalitarianism disguised as benevolence, i.e., virtue signaling). Mr Trump engages in lying & flagrant breaches of the norms of International Law, including engaging in acts of military action that are unconstitutional from a mere US perspective. There is a Military Industrial Complex, banking and Zionist cartel and Trump is the servant of this cartel. His family is married into the later, namely, West Bank Settlement Builders (the Kushners).

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In the same way, Rahula, when anyone feels no shame in telling a deliberate lie, there is no evil, I tell you, he will not do.

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Post by DooDoot » Tue May 01, 2018 10:21 pm

Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
The main problem with Syria and Yemen is that the absolute victory of either side would leave significant part of population being dominated and they would just wait another opportunity to rebel against the government.
This is false. The majority of Syrian people support the Syrian government. If this was not true, then Syria would have collapsed by now. Each time the Syrian govt liberates a city, such as Aleppo, the Syrian people return there to live. This is why the so-called "rebel groups" are mostly made up of an international brigade of mercenaries & psychopaths from around 40 countries.

This video is an explanation by a Syrian Christian Armenian about what happened in Syria:




Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
If Shia wins in both countries, it would mean they get to dominate over Sunni majorities, and if Sunni wins they get to dominate over Shia and other minorities.
This is false. The majority of soldiers & volunteers in the Syrian army are Sunni. The conflict in Syria is not Sunnis vs Shia.
Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
Foreign forces are not necessary to create these long standing conflicts, but if they want to instigate them, they can easily find many people willing to fight.
This is false. The Syrian conflict is by foreign forces, including the forces of the West & Israel.
Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
It's really hard to say what's the real solution there. To choose between America and their allies vs Iran and their allies, is like choosing between Alien vs Predator.
This is false. The choice is to follow rule of moral & International Law. All foreign forces should leave Syria alone. This is a Buddhist discussion forum and Buddhism teaches the practise of morality. Also, Iran has been invited into Syria to help the Syrians. Iran is not a predator. In reality, Iran is a very old culture that transcends Islam. Iran is the culture that freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity and allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem from their Exile. For thousands of years, Jews lived in Iran and continue to live in Iran today.



Iran supports groups that protect their people from Zionist aggression. Israel has never been attacked by Iran. For example, in 2006, Zionist imperialist military action in Lebanon was defeated & humiliated by Iranian supported Hezbollah. Israel has no moral right to invade Lebanon or Syria.




Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm
It's really hard to say what's the real solution there. To choose between America and their allies vs Iran and their allies, is like choosing between Alien vs Predator.
America supports Saudi Wahhabism. To support America is to support Wahhabi extremism & Wahhabi terrorism. Al Qaeda fought for American agendas in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Libya, Iraq & Syria. America, as well as France, UK and other Western nations, sells billions of dollars of weapons to Saudi Arabia each year. America makes money from selling weapons, which is considered wrong in Buddhism.


Traveler8 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:17 pm
When you say you want to destroy Israel and support its enemies, you can be sure they will do everything to stop you. You play dirty, they can do it dirtier, and their big daddy is stronger.
This is false. Neither Yemen, Syria or Iran have acted to threaten Israel. Yet Israel continues to engage in bombing campaigns in Syria and continues to arm & fund Wahhabi terrorists, who they called "rebel groups". It is immoral for Israel to fund & support mercenaries to attack the Syrian people; just as it is immoral for Syria to support attacks upon Israel.
To Push Iran Back, Israel Ramps Up Support for Syrian Rebels, 'Arming 7 Different Groups'
With the Assad regime's advances the civil war and America's reduced involvement in the region, Israel has been forced to make significant changes in its policies in the Golan Heights

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.5826348
Israel Reportedly Providing Direct Aid, Funding to Syrian Rebels
It's been known that Israeli hospitals have treated wounded [ISIS] Syrian fighters, but Wall Street Journal report uncovers direct support in cash, without which fighters say they 'wouldn't have survived'

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/isr ... -1.5485794
Buddhism teaches about honesty & morality. Please keep this in mind. :candle:

Some impartial Jews commenting in favour of Syria below:



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