Like they did in Libya?
To this benevolent dictator?
Like they did in Libya?
You wrote this post on Apr 11 3:03 AM (my local time)Circle5 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 pmWhy is no topic here about the important events that are about to happen regarding Syria ? I sometimes come here to check the news. I think "if something super important is happening, it must be there in the dw news section". But since this news is not here, maybe I shouldn't rely on DW to get the news in the future.
So long story short: USA wants to strike Syria for an alleged chemical attack. This time, Russia has said that it will respond strongly to such an act and ever since Trump tweet 2 days ago, Russian and Assad planes have been patrolling the coast.
What can happen:
1) Worst case scenario: USA stricks Syria. Russia downs the US ship that launched the missilles. USA crushes Russian navy present in the area that is weaker than USA navy in the area. Russia might then respond with bombing of USA troops west of euphrate. After that, probably a US emergency meeting will be summoned and things will calm down.
2) Trump backs down and decides not to strike and things return to normal.
3) Middle ground solution: USA strikes Syria, Russia strikes the USA ship that lounched those missiles, UN emergency summit is summoned
There are 24 hours left until the decision will be made.
Personal prediction: USA finds a way to back down and not strike Syria while not looking like losers. Even China said they should do this and it's the first time they comment on Syrian war. They might call some independent commision to investigate the attack and slowly get out of this situation without losing face. Though there is a significant chance they will just do the attack and hope others don't react, but that's highly problematic since it has been made crystal clear that the US ship will be sunk if they do the attack.
And we've seen how that worked out. Just like in Iraq too. Another glorious victory for democracy.
The Syrian people, Lebanese Hezbollah & Russians sacrificed their lives, having to enter in a hell not of their own creation, to obliterate ISIS.
So the man in this video @ 14:37 to 15:08 has cognitive dissonance in his condemnation of anyone that takes Trump (a liar) seriously.
Even so, Rāhula, of anyone for whom there is no shame at intentional lying, of him I say that there is no evil he cannot do. Wherefore, for you, Rāhula, ‘I will not speak a lie, even for fun’, this is how you must train yourself, Rāhula.
MN 61 - Lord Buddha
Residential area burning in Damascus. #TRUMP is murdering the people of Damascus, the oldest inhabited city in the world to save AlQaeda.
If a bhikkhu should wish: ‘May I contact with the body and abide in those liberations that are peaceful and immaterial, transcending forms,’ let him fulfil the precepts… MN 6
He abides in non-killing... non-lying... and speaks in praise of non-killing... non-lying... SN 55.7
Why does it matter to the rest of the world if people die in a civil war (as long as the civil war can be contained inside borders of that country)
Stick to quoting suttas, Doo Doot. You are starting to sound ridiculous. You believe everything you read that appeals to your interests. I can see you know almost nothing about the middle east and its cultures.DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm
The "opposition" are a coalition of radicals & mercenaries from over 30 nations. There is no civil war and no rebels. Just an orchestrated regime change agenda that has so far failed & cost lots of money. The Syrian govt has been unbelievably civil, trying to minimize war. 95% of East Ghouta was liberated. It is ridiculous the Syrian govt would use chemicals. It was obviously the "rebels'; who probably killed captives.
Basic human compassion for other human beings? Because it is not being contained inside the borders of the country? Because it is a proxy war for various super powers and may spill over into a global war? Because it is effecting all the surrounding countries? Because most of those being killed are innocents?
Oh, that makes it okay then. Phew, for a second there I was actually concerned about human suffering but now you have allayed that feeling.100,000 a year is quite small number of casualties in absolute terms. Total deaths in WW I was 41 million and in WW II 75 million (military and civilian; Allied and Axis combined)
The amount of purposeful ignorance in this statement makes it useless and unnecessary for me to answer.None of us in rest of the world are responsible for it .. why should we be wringing our hands (or rather you be wringing your hands).
Personally, I feel sad about both situations.I am feeling more sad about a tiger that was killed yesterday by villagers about 180 kms from my home.
Thank God you were not around in 1939 .. you would have worn your hand to a nub from all the wringing .. making me as a fellow Nibbana seeker worried and sad. In a few years Saudi Arabia will follow. Go wring your hand out of compassion for them. Keep on wringing.grigoris wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:42 amBasic human compassion for other human beings? Because it is not being contained inside the borders of the country? Because it is a proxy war for various super powers and may spill over into a global war? Because it is effecting all the surrounding countries? Because most of those being killed are innocents?Oh, that makes it okay then. Phew, for a second there I was actually concerned about human suffering but now you have allayed that feeling.100,000 a year is quite small number of casualties in absolute terms. Total deaths in WW I was 41 million and in WW II 75 million (military and civilian; Allied and Axis combined)
If I am the "anyone" ..
I don't wring my hands. I live on the island of Lesbos. It is the first major European entry point for the majority of the refugees fleeing the war in Syria. I work as a clinical psychologist for a medical organisation. I deal on a daily basis with victims of war, torture and rape. The majority of my patients suffer from psychosis as a consequence of their experiences. If you do not think that I am justifiably concerned about the situation in Syria and it's effect on not only Syrians, but on the members of the community I live in too, then feel free to continue wringing whatever it is you are busily wringing...No_Mind wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:11 amThank God you were not around in 1939 .. you would have worn your hand to a nub from all the wringing .. making me as a fellow Nibbana seeker worried and sad. In a few years Saudi Arabia will follow. Go wring your hand out of compassion for them. Keep on wringing.
At 100,000 a year not much scope for large scale wringing
And what do you suggest as a remedy to the civil war .. we carpet bomb them with Dhammapadas?
Basically what I am saying is they need to get it out of their system (like Europe did between 1914 and 1945).
Buddha was concerned if you are being violent. You are not .. then why suffer due to other people suffering? Suffering will never stop .. it is upto you to achieve your own Nibbanagrigoris wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 am
And since this is a Buddhist forum: Where exactly did the Buddha teach that people have to get "it (whatever that "it" is) out of their system" in order to avoid suffering?
As a matter of fact all of the Buddha's teachings on violence are a denunciation of it.
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