Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:42 pm

Western politicians are probably testing the general Western public for protests; so to measure the degree of their absolute power over the hoodwinked public. Based on the responses at least on Dhammawheel the totalitarian politicians are doing very well. Most (but not all) posters here appear excited about war, in favour of war, think this is some type of "business deal" or think: "As long as it doesn't affect me then is OK". Below are the people the Western governments are trusting & seeking to protect; the same ideology that allegedly did 9/11.






As this video shows, the war supporters here are supporting Wahabbi ("Islamic") radicals & fundamentalists. :roll:

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by JamesTheGiant » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:00 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:42 pm
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Ya, I remember one of the USA-supported rebel groups captured a Syrian government soldier, and cut out his heart and ate it, and then posted it on youtube.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:00 pm
Ya, I remember one of the USA-supported rebel groups captured a Syrian government soldier, and cut out his heart and ate it, and then posted it on youtube.
The "opposition" are a coalition of radicals & mercenaries from over 30 nations. There is no civil war and no rebels. Just an orchestrated regime change agenda that has so far failed & cost lots of money. The Syrian govt has been unbelievably civil, trying to minimize war. 95% of East Ghouta was liberated. It is ridiculous the Syrian govt would use chemicals. It was obviously the "rebels'; who probably killed captives.








Hundreds of women paraded in cages by rebel groups in Damascus as human shields

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... el-6757661
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by JamesTheGiant » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:20 pm

Is there a reason somebody just didn't assassinate or targeted-strike President Assad? I guess maybe his movements are secret...

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:25 pm

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:20 pm
Is there a reason somebody just didn't assassinate or targeted-strike President Assad? I guess maybe his movements are secret...
Who would assassinate a call for murder? Most Syrian love him. :roll:







His wife is also a good sort. :heart:



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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:39 pm

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:20 pm
Is there a reason somebody just didn't assassinate or targeted-strike President Assad? I guess maybe his movements are secret...
Like they did in Libya?



Like this?



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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Circle5 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:15 pm

Lol. Funny stuff from 2 hours ago. Former head of UK armed forces got cut off on TV after going off script on Syria:

https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar ... s_cut_off/

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by No_Mind » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:26 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 pm
Why is no topic here about the important events that are about to happen regarding Syria ? I sometimes come here to check the news. I think "if something super important is happening, it must be there in the dw news section". But since this news is not here, maybe I shouldn't rely on DW to get the news in the future.

So long story short: USA wants to strike Syria for an alleged chemical attack. This time, Russia has said that it will respond strongly to such an act and ever since Trump tweet 2 days ago, Russian and Assad planes have been patrolling the coast.

What can happen:

1) Worst case scenario: USA stricks Syria. Russia downs the US ship that launched the missilles. USA crushes Russian navy present in the area that is weaker than USA navy in the area. Russia might then respond with bombing of USA troops west of euphrate. After that, probably a US emergency meeting will be summoned and things will calm down.

2) Trump backs down and decides not to strike and things return to normal.

3) Middle ground solution: USA strikes Syria, Russia strikes the USA ship that lounched those missiles, UN emergency summit is summoned

There are 24 hours left until the decision will be made.

Personal prediction: USA finds a way to back down and not strike Syria while not looking like losers. Even China said they should do this and it's the first time they comment on Syrian war. They might call some independent commision to investigate the attack and slowly get out of this situation without losing face. Though there is a significant chance they will just do the attack and hope others don't react, but that's highly problematic since it has been made crystal clear that the US ship will be sunk if they do the attack.
You wrote this post on Apr 11 3:03 AM (my local time)

Now it is Apr 13 10:51 PM

More than 67 hours have gone by and nothing has happened.

Nothing will. At most few Tomahawks will hit some targets in Syria. That's all.

Neither US nor Russia will go to war over a conflict in Syria. Stop imagining things after being awake all night. You wrote this at your local time 12:30 PM!! See what happens if you stay awake? Go to sleep at 9 PM today

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Circle5 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:52 pm

My own prediction was that nothing will happen. And indeed, it seems that despite the strange tweets from Trump, nothing has happened and the situation appears to have calmed down.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Grigoris » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:49 pm

On average 100,000 people have been killed in Syria per year since the war started in 2011, I would hardly call that "nothing happening".
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

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Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Grigoris » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:51 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:39 pm
Like they did in Libya?
And we've seen how that worked out. Just like in Iraq too. Another glorious victory for democracy. :roll:
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:59 pm

grigoris wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:51 pm
Another glorious victory for democracy. :roll:


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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:19 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:38 am
ISIS who have been virtually obliterated by Mad Dog Maddis & co.
The Syrian people, Lebanese Hezbollah & Russians sacrificed their lives, having to enter in a hell not of their own creation, to obliterate ISIS. :|
retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:38 am
( And some people still believe he is stupid! :rofl: The cognitive dissonance must hurt. )
So the man in this video @ 14:37 to 15:08 has cognitive dissonance in his condemnation of anyone that takes Trump (a liar) seriously.
Even so, Rāhula, of anyone for whom there is no shame at intentional lying, of him I say that there is no evil he cannot do. Wherefore, for you, Rāhula, ‘I will not speak a lie, even for fun’, this is how you must train yourself, Rāhula.

MN 61 - Lord Buddha

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:38 am
Given his actual track record, I think we're all blessed that he is at the helm, rather than the alternative - a proven war-monger like Hillary Clinton.
Residential area burning in Damascus. #TRUMP is murdering the people of Damascus, the oldest inhabited city in the world to save AlQaeda.
If a bhikkhu should wish: ‘May I contact with the body and abide in those liberations that are peaceful and immaterial, transcending forms,’ let him fulfil the precepts… MN 6

He abides in non-killing... non-lying... and speaks in praise of non-killing... non-lying... SN 55.7
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by No_Mind » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:28 am

grigoris wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:49 pm
On average 100,000 people have been killed in Syria per year since the war started in 2011, I would hardly call that "nothing happening".
Why does it matter to the rest of the world if people die in a civil war (as long as the civil war can be contained inside borders of that country)

100,000 a year is quite small number of casualties in absolute terms. Total deaths in WW I was 41 million and in WW II 75 million (military and civilian; Allied and Axis combined)

The figure is probably incorrect since Syrian opposition puts it at 470,000 or 67,000 per year. As we know the opposition would be putting out inflated numbers. Let us say 45,000 a year is the correct number (we Asians can haggle over anything .. from price of fish to number of deaths :smile:)

And this is not the number that Assad killed .. it is a many cornered battle - Assad, ISIS and others who include Iraq, Kurds, Syrian rebels.

On July 1, 2016 the number of British soldiers who died on the first day of Battle of Somme was 19,240 .. probably the bloodiest single day in modern war

None of us in rest of the world are responsible for it .. why should we be wringing our hands (or rather you be wringing your hands) ..

The idea that "civilised nations" should prevent "uncivilised nations" from bickering among themselves is a dated notion that has brought untold misery to this world .. from British colonisation of India to US intervention in Iraq. The white race has a moral responsibility to preserve peace and see that democracy prevails in every corner of this world .. white man's burden theory .. is exploitative (not to mention anachronistic.) Let citizens in every country figure out their own salvation.

I am feeling more sad about a tiger that was killed yesterday by villagers about 180 kms from my home. It had presumably strayed away from Sunderbans tiger reserve and travelled 300 kms west to its new hunting grounds (how it did that without being seen .. no one can understand) .. many unsuccessful attempts were made to capture it using live bait and cage .. but at end it was killed by villagers whose livestock it was feeding off for two months.

A picture of the animal taken with remote cameras a month ago .. magnificent specimen

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Saengnapha » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:35 am

DooDoot wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm

The "opposition" are a coalition of radicals & mercenaries from over 30 nations. There is no civil war and no rebels. Just an orchestrated regime change agenda that has so far failed & cost lots of money. The Syrian govt has been unbelievably civil, trying to minimize war. 95% of East Ghouta was liberated. It is ridiculous the Syrian govt would use chemicals. It was obviously the "rebels'; who probably killed captives.
Stick to quoting suttas, Doo Doot. You are starting to sound ridiculous. You believe everything you read that appeals to your interests. I can see you know almost nothing about the middle east and its cultures.

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