Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sat May 12, 2018 10:53 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 6:58 am
Maybe. Or perhaps people reading it are still concerned and compassionate, but find the tone of discussion on this thread to be uncongenial.
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Sam Vara » Sat May 12, 2018 3:58 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 10:53 am
Sam Vara wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 6:58 am
Maybe. Or perhaps people reading it are still concerned and compassionate, but find the tone of discussion on this thread to be uncongenial.
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'Why do you hesitate, when lives are in danger'


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"Why do you hesitate...to contribute to this thread and respond to my posts on Dhamma Wheel...when lives are in danger".

I can think of several reasons why they might!

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sun May 20, 2018 8:21 pm

What was Syria like under Assad from 2000 to 2010?

World Affairs - Non-Partisan and Objective

5 months ago

Bashar al-Assad came to power in July 2000. The first faux Arab Spring protests started in Feb 2011. So what was Syria like for those 11 years?

First, during that period, there were no big protests, rebellions, revolutions or civil wars in Syria. Syria was peaceful, secular and quite prosperous under Assad. Sunnis, Shiites, Jews, Christians and other sects co-existed harmoniously. People had free healthcare and free education, including college.

Under Assad, Syria’s GDP tripled from 2000 to 2010. At the same time, Assad reduced the debt-to-GDP ratio from 150% to 30%. Incredible achievements.

In fact, Syria was so stable under Assad that it was the #1 destination for Iraqi refugees (who fled after US invasion). By 2010, there were one million Iraqi refugees living in Syria. This is a testimony to Assad’s kindness.

In 2010 – one year before the proxy war started, 8.5 million tourists visited Syria! Why? Because it was beautiful, historic, peaceful and safe. The New York Times listed 31 best places in the world to visit in 2010, and #7 was Syria! BTW, considering that Syria’s population is only ~20 million, the number of tourists is impressive. And the fact that so many tourists were able to visit and travel also shows that it was a free country and that Syrians were quite happy with Assad. (A truly unpopular dictator would never allow foreigners to freely travel in the country).

Tony Blair (British PM), Sarkozy (French Pres.), the Pope, Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry etc. all schmoozed with Assad.

There is a wonderful series of videos on YouTube called “Peter Marshall’s Syria,” that documents Syria through the eyes of a tourist — who also happens to be a famous British historian and writer — in 2009 and early 2011 (just when the protests were beginning). One can see how peaceful and happy the country was.

In a 2009 CNN Arabic poll that included many Middle Eastern countries, Assad won the “Person of the year” title by a large margin — he won 66% of the votes.

In a Zogby Arabic poll in 2009, people were asked which leader they admired the most outside their own country (thus, Syrians cannot choose Assad). In that poll also, Assad came first.

So, that’s the truth. If you want to know the truth about the Syrian war, Please check out my book “Deconstructing the Syrian War

– Chris Kanthan

https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/12/10/wh ... ssion=true

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sat May 26, 2018 1:00 pm

From 2017:
United Nations wrote:Aleppo city received the most returnees.


From 2016:
Mass Media wrote:Genocide in Aleppo a failure of Obama's foreign policy




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In the aftermath of the Syrian regime's final assault against opposition-held eastern Aleppo this week, large protests erupted in cities across the world against President Bashar al-Assad's forces.

In London, hundreds marched across through the city waving Syrian flags and sporting huge placards. They stopped outside Downing Street to protest over the "genocide" taking place in Aleppo, and held up traffic demanding the government take action to help Syrians.

Red banners reading "Save Aleppo", "Hand-in-Hand with Aleppo" and "Enough with Assad" were carried across London in solidarity with civilians stranded in war-torn Syria.

A note on the Facebook page for the event, hosted by the Syria Solidarity Campaign, read: "After the renewed assault on Aleppo since mid-November, the Assad regime and its allies are bombarding the city like there is no tomorrow.

"There is a Holocaust ongoing and we urgently need the international community to take action to save lives."

The demonstrations were echoed in Berlin, where hundreds of activists planned a march to Aleppo in protest of the killing of civilians inside the besieged city.

Holding banners saying "The children of Aleppo are calling you!", or "Aleppo is bleeding and the world is watching", around 900 people braved plunging temperatures to gather in front to the Reichstag, the German parliament building.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Bundokji » Sat May 26, 2018 1:39 pm

Syria's Law Number 10 land grab could see millions lose homes as Government looks to redevelop amid conflict

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-01/s ... es/9713400
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sat May 26, 2018 1:45 pm

Bundokji wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Syria's Law Number 10 land grab could see millions lose homes as Government looks to redevelop amid conflict

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-01/s ... es/9713400
Australia's govt ABC has been a leading propagandist against the Syrian govt and thus a promoter of terrorism against the Syrian nation & people. Why would we believe anything the ABC publishes about Syria? They are posting pictures by White Helmets carrying babies, which is propaganda. White Helmets are M16 created Al Nusra. Regardless, even if the story was true, the ABC contributed to this situation. However, I personally doubt the story is true. Its probably just a story published by the rest of the mainstream media. :| In fact, the source of the story is a Neo-Con & Globalist: http://www.ecfr.eu/profile/C283/ from http://www.ecfr.eu/ established by George Soros.
ECFR is a private not-for-profit organisation that relies on donations. It was established with the support of Open Society Foundations [George Soros], Communitas Foundation and Fundación Para las Relaciones Internacionales y el Diálogo Exterior (FRIDE). Its partners and funders are foundations, corporations, governments and individuals.

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Western nations won't help pay Syria's $200 billion reconstruction bill until there's a change of power in Damascus.



If you believe the baby below was "saved" rather than "kidnapped" by the White Helmets then you would believe anything. :roll: :|




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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Bundokji » Sat May 26, 2018 2:24 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 1:45 pm

Australia's govt ABC has been a leading propagandist against the Syrian govt and thus a promoter of terrorism against the Syrian nation & people. Why would we believe anything the ABC publishes about Syria? They are posting pictures by White Helmets carrying babies, which is propaganda. White Helmets are M16 created Al Nusra. Regardless, even if the story was true, the ABC contributed to this situation. However, I personally doubt the story is true. Its probably just a story published by the rest of the mainstream media. :| In fact, the source of the story is a Neo-Con & Globalist: http://www.ecfr.eu/profile/C283/ from http://www.ecfr.eu/ established by George Soros.
Western nations won't help pay Syria's $200 billion reconstruction bill until there's a change of power in Damascus.



If you believe the baby below was "saved" rather than "kidnapped" by the White Helmets then you would believe anything. :roll: :|



I encountered info about this controversial law on a Pro-Assad Arabic website. The article mentioned that Jordan is investigating the controversial law and planning to oppose it at international courts claiming that its illegal. It is worth remembering that Jordan hosts more than a million Syrian refugees.

Here is a link for the Article in Arabic. You can use google translate if you want.

https://www.raialyoum.com/index.php/%d8 ... %b1%d8%af/

The owner of the website is Abdel Bari Atwan, well known for his support of Iran, Syria, North Korea and/or any country that stands against western imperialism (according to him)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel_Bari_Atwan

As most of the forum members are English speakers, i had to find a source to share in English. The same was reported on Aljazeera by the way.
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Bundokji » Sat May 26, 2018 2:29 pm

Here is the law in its original version on the Syrian government website

http://www.pministry.gov.sy/contents/13 ... D9%85-2012
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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by DooDoot » Sat May 26, 2018 10:14 pm

Bundokji wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 2:24 pm
I encountered info about this controversial law on a Pro-Assad Arabic website. The article mentioned that Jordan is investigating the controversial law and planning to oppose it at international courts claiming that its illegal. It is worth remembering that Jordan hosts more than a million Syrian refugees.
Jordan supported the Syrian hell, which started at Daraa on the Jordanian border. Jordan allowed US military to enter Syria via Jordan. Regardless, I think it is not our role to post negative information about speculative or possible Syrian domestic policy. Imo, we should not be interventionists. Non-Syrians should leave Syria alone. If there was a genuine civil war in Syria, I would not care. Syrians or any other (foolish) people can have a civil war if they (foolishly) wish to.

I recently met & spoke to a Syrian lady, who is an Alawite but a typical Westernized liberal. She said to me she did not like Assad due to typical liberal complaints, such as "lack of free speech", "lack of democracy", etc. But now she realises how the West destroyed Syria. She knows there was no civil war. She said: "our demonstrations in Damascus were never intended to become this war & international intervention". She understands how all of the complaining about relatively "small issues" was just used by the Western agenda to demonize, attack & literally destroy Syria. This is probably why Dhamma recommends responsible & careful speech. If we say: "I don't like the govt of North Korea" or "I don't like the govt of Iran", in certain circumstances, these personal voiced ideas can have deadly consequences for millions of people.

If Syria's Law Number 10 is used immorally by the Syrian govt, this is not related to our personal kamma. But if our complaining about Syria's Law Number 10 leads to a US-NATO-Israeli-Saudi invasion of Syria and another 'Libya', this is related to our personal kamma.

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Re: Next 24 hours are super important (huge tensions regarding Syria)

Post by Bundokji » Sun May 27, 2018 6:08 am

DooDoot wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 10:14 pm
Jordan supported the Syrian hell, which started at Daraa on the Jordanian border. Jordan allowed US military to enter Syria via Jordan. Regardless, I think it is not our role to post negative information about speculative or possible Syrian domestic policy. Imo, we should not be interventionists. Non-Syrians should leave Syria alone. If there was a genuine civil war in Syria, I would not care. Syrians or any other (foolish) people can have a civil war if they (foolishly) wish to.

I recently met & spoke to a Syrian lady, who is an Alawite but a typical Westernized liberal. She said to me she did not like Assad due to typical liberal complaints, such as "lack of free speech", "lack of democracy", etc. But now she realises how the West destroyed Syria. She knows there was no civil war. She said: "our demonstrations in Damascus were never intended to become this war & international intervention". She understands how all of the complaining about relatively "small issues" was just used by the Western agenda to demonize, attack & literally destroy Syria. This is probably why Dhamma recommends responsible & careful speech. If we say: "I don't like the govt of North Korea" or "I don't like the govt of Iran", in certain circumstances, these personal voiced ideas can have deadly consequences for millions of people.

If Syria's Law Number 10 is used immorally by the Syrian govt, this is not related to our personal kamma. But if our complaining about Syria's Law Number 10 leads to a US-NATO-Israeli-Saudi invasion of Syria and another 'Libya', this is related to our personal kamma.

Regards.
I do not to take sides but try to look at the actions. If the law is used to confiscate lands and properties of absentees who are not able to provide evidence of their ownership within the short notice given by the Syrian government (30 days), this would make it more difficult for many refugees to return home.

Bashar Al Assad have been trying to open a new page with his people and to end the war since it began. I fail to see how introducing this law would help him achieve that.

While foreign interventionism caused a lot of misery in the Middle East, the foolish actions of Arab leaders can be seen as a contributing factor by giving them the tools/justifications. They should have learned something after all of this such as building a better relationship with their own people.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

This was the last word of the Tathagata.

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