I am sympathetic to the view that identity politics and Buddhadhamma are contradictory. But this cuts both ways - i.e. left and right. Often people on the right wager deep critiques of identity politics whilst failing to realise that they are deeply invested in particular forms of identity politics.dylanj wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:46 ami mean identity politics & social justice - modern american liberalism. not classical economic liberalism altho i can complain about that too if u'd likeUpeksha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:14 amJust out of interest, when people here say 'keep liberalism out Buddhism,' what do they mean by 'liberalism?'
i.e. in America this term signifies a kind of progressive politics. But in political philosophy it signifies a tradition of thinking which has its roots in figures such as John Locke, Immanuel Kant and JS Mill + contemporary thinkers such as John Rawls and Isaiah Berlin.
There are many different strands of political liberalism, some of which are contradictory, but all tend to privilege two key principles: 1. private property rights. 2. maximum freedom for the individual from the state.
Is this what people here want 'out' of Buddhism? Or are they using the term loosely to signify something like 'progressive views I don't like.'
As for social justice - well, this is a more vexing question. I think it depends upon which specific issue, and what kinds of moral-poitical arguments are made in support of them. Which ones are you rallying against? And why? And how much of your reasoning is shaped by Buddhism?