How will you conceive the world in thirty years?

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by SarathW » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:28 am

:focus:
Do not talk too much about the past.
Talk about what is happening now and how it will shape next thirty years.
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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by DooDoot » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:29 am

No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:26 am
Which means democracy can be tampered with quite easily. Now can you please stop arguing against yourself any further and get back to topic?

:focus:
My posts are on topic. My posts are about the growing totalitarian, be it Communist, Nazi, Zionist, EU or US totalitarianism. :| Did the US & NATO military invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc; or the Israeli settlement of the West Bank; accord with fleeing idea of International Law? Is the idea of universal International Law something growing or is it diminishing?? Are domestic human rights & freedom growing in the West or diminishing??? :roll:
SarathW wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:28 am
Do not talk too much about the past. Talk about what is happening now and how it will shape next thirty years.
My posts are about the present & the future controlled by the same (Empire-Internationalist-Trotskyite-NWO-Neo-Con) forces from the past. :|

In short, at least to me, your Pied Piper Hindu guru sounds like a dreamer; similar to feeding fresh grass to the sheep kicking up the heels in front of the slaughter house. :roll:

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by No_Mind » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 am

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:29 am

In short, at least to me, your Pied Piper Hindu guru sounds like a dreamer; feeding grass to the sheep kicking up the heels in front of the slaughter house. :roll:
Why would he be my guru? I am neither Hindu nor is he my guru. I share same landmass with him. He lives well over 1000 miles away (1156 to be exact)

Stay on point .. play the ball not the man.

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by DooDoot » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:41 am

No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 am
Why would he be my guru? I am neither Hindu nor is he my guru. I share same landmass as him. Stay on point .. play the ball not the man.
I did stay on point. My reply about "your guru" was to SarathW. Also, the man (the guru) here is the ball. ;)
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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by No_Mind » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:42 am

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:41 am
No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 am
Why would he be my guru? I am neither Hindu nor is he my guru. I share same landmass as him. Stay on point .. play the ball not the man.
I did stay on point. My reply about "your guru" was to SarathW.
My error

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by No_Mind » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:46 am

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:29 am
Are domestic human rights & freedom growing in the West or diminishing??? :roll:
Growing .. not a day passes by that I do not come across a tv show where a woman wakes up from trauma to the head and asks ER doctors "where is my wife she was in the accident too" :?

I have always wanted to know .. if two gay women visit India (seen many such couples) and were in an accident .. woke up in ER and asked doctors this question what would happen :lol:

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by DooDoot » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:20 am

No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:46 am
Growing ..
Cultural SJW Marxism through the eyes of an Indian TV watcher; that regards the development (bhavana) of something as superficial as homosexual marriage as growth (bhavana) in freedom (vimutti). If homosexual marriage lead to or was part of an overall social respect for marriage, i probably would regard it as progress. But my impression homosexual marriage is merely another distraction & just another means to reduce social cohesiveness. Recently, my (never married) sister & mother were celebrating the recent Australian yes-vote for gay marriage but my visiting lesbian cousin & her partner said they did not care about it. This shows how brainwashed some people are. I just smiled & was happy to see my (favourite) cousin again. :heart:


No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:46 am
I have always wanted to know .. if two gay women visit India (seen many such couples) and were in an accident .. woke up in ER and asked doctors this question what would happen :lol:
Well, I just returned home from visiting my mother & was walking near the beach yesterday & saw some Indian ladies dressed in traditional sari, bindi & jewellery sitting at a picnic table. I personally like the elegance & beauty of such dress. The Indians ladies looked at me about to walk past them & I raised my hands in salute. They all laughed, saying "Namaste". I prefer seeing unconfused ladies with culture, morals & elegance.

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by binocular » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:02 am

SarathW wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:28 am
:focus:
Do not talk too much about the past.
Talk about what is happening now and how it will shape next thirty years.
This time, we're having a language problem.
"How you conceived the world in thirty years?" is not an English sentence.

I first took it to mean something like "What do you think the world has been like for the last 30 years?" I thought (and I was not alone in that) that there was a "have" missing (so that it should read "How have you ...") and that "conceive" was used in a less common way.

But it seems you're asking something like "What do you think the world will be like in the coming 30 years?"
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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by SarathW » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:28 am

"What do you think the world will be like in the coming 30 years?"
Ok, I add this to my OP
thanks.'
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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by manas » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:26 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:54 am


When I was young, we were actually taught or encouraged to think for ourselves at school. But in recent years, I see authoritarianism; political correctness; fear; conformity; obedience; like I have never seen before in my life. Its frightening.

In 30 years, unless something drastically changes, I see the possibility a dystopian totalitarian world; ruled by plutocratic militarist technocrats.
Yes, nowadays kids are taught what to think, not how to think. When I was in high school, we had to analyse news reports not just in terms of what was said, but in terms of why it was being said, what the author might be trying to get their readers to believe, to look for possible biases...I asked my eldest about this, she said nothing like that was ever taught to her, in all her years of Secondary Education. However, attempts at social engineering are rife. The so-called 'Safe Schools Program', which introduces LGBT notions to children before they have even had a chance to explore or even be aware of, their own natural sexuality (or had a chance to just let it unfold by itself), is one pernicious example of social engineering, being foisted upon kids by extreme left wing ideologues in the ranks of those who draft education policy. (Of course, I have nothing against gay folks, I'm just saying, sexual topics should not be forced onto children before they are ready, and when you investigate who founded the actual program, it's even more disturbing, but I won't go into that here.)

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Re: How will you conceive the world in thirty years?

Post by DNS » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:31 pm

Here are some of my predictions:

World population: about 12 billion

Religious breakdown:

Non-religious/secular/agnostic/atheist: 30% (huge increase)
Islam: 30% (increase due to birth rates, conversion, apostasy not allowed or even illegal)
Christianity: 20% (decrease due to many current Christians living in developed nations; parents not forcing religion on their children)
Hinduism: 14% (about the same due to birth rates)
Buddhism: 4% (decrease due to lack of birth rates, lack of rules against apostasy)

Technology:

Self-driving cars and trucks the norm. When you need to go some where you send for a car on your phone, an un-manned car arrives; you state where you want to go, the charge is set and you swipe your card and you're off. In the meantime you can text, call, surf the net while the car drives itself. Driver's licenses will get phased out. Wealthier people will use flying cars in the same way, which cost more but get to their destination faster. They won't crash into each other because they are all coordinated by computers for ground and air traffic.

The beginnings of cyborgs, with advancements in mechanical limbs and replacement organs, which perform better than the original organic parts.

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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by Kamran » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:31 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:28 am

I never said I did. Democracy is pitiable counting of noses. As Churchill put it pithily "The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

I am for benevolent dictatorship .. Plato's philosopher king or rule by a council of the wise

Best real life example is Lee Kuan Yew who transformed Singapore from a mosquito ridden marsh to one of the world's most advanced nations in twenty years 1960 - 80

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Iran's system of government is also based on Plato's Philosopher king model.

It combines a democratic Legislative branch with a semi-democratic Executive branch.

They call it "Government of the Jurist" and a Guardian Council of highest Islamic Clerics picks a picks a Supreme Jurist to be the executive leader of the country.

The congress, and President is democratically elected but don't have as much power as the "Supreme Jurist".

They are supposed to pick the Supreme Jurist based on the candidate's scholarship, recognition of wisdom, and having lived a saintly life.

In practice, it has fallen to power games and political manipulation so that the "Supreme Jurist" that was elected by the Guardian Council was not even a real Ayatollah, or had the sufficient academic credentials for the position.

The lack of checks and balances makes Plato's Philosopher King model highly susceptible to failure.
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Re: How you conceived the world in thirty years?

Post by Pseudobabble » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:57 am

Kamran wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:31 pm
The lack of checks and balances makes Plato's Philosopher King model highly susceptible to failure.
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Re: How will you conceive the world in thirty years?

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:00 pm

IN 30 years the soil in my organic farm and my farming knowledge will be so great that to plant all I will have to do is throw the seeds out and they will already be sprouting before they hit the ground.
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Re: How will you conceive the world in thirty years?

Post by Justsit » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:20 pm

The basis of imputation known as "justsit" will be long gone. If "I" happen to obtain a precious human birth, I have no idea what the world will be like, but in any case I hope I don't make the same mistakes yet again. If not, please all of you be kind to insects, I may be one of them!

Human nature doesn't change, the three poisons will persist in causing suffering. The exponential growth rates for population, technology, etc. are not sustainable indefinitely; at some point inevitably, I think, there will be some type of disaster, whether natural like pandemic or man-made, such as nuclear. Whether this will happen within the next 30 years is anybody's guess, but hopefully it will lead to some type of positive change.

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