Larry Nasser

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Larry Nasser

Post by Meezer77 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:29 pm

I agree that the victims should have their say and that he should go to prison for what he has done. What I don't understand is this need to televise this. Isn't it a bit exploitive to film the victims making their statements ,some were very emotional and I don't see how filming their pain is going to help.




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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Justsit » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:50 pm

A televised broadcast of victims' statements provides a public forum in which the victims face their rapist/abuser and are able to verbalize directly the hurt, pain, and damage inflicted on them, their families, and ultimately their sport. Those who chose to participate are able to tell the whole world what the man did and describe the consequences of his actions; a closed court would merely mimic the hidden nature of the crimes and the hidden shame felt by many of the victims. In similar cases, victims have found making such public statements to be very cathartic and helpful to obtaining a small measure of control and closure.

In the old days, criminals were put in stocks to be jeered and derided by the public. While we are perhaps a bit more civilized now, the thought of public shaming and humiliation on TV might be at least a small deterrent to some abusers, especially powerful white men who often manage to avoid anything more than a wrist slap.

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Meezer77 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:40 pm

He was highly successful and pretty much had everything. I wonder why he needed to hurt children. Hopefully the victims will be able to heal and move on after this. I think he would be better off with the death penalty.

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Justsit » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:09 am

Meezer77 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:40 pm
He was highly successful and pretty much had everything. I wonder why he needed to hurt children. Hopefully the victims will be able to heal and move on after this. I think he would be better off with the death penalty.
He meets the criteria for Pedophilic Disorder as defined in the DSM 5. He may also have been molested as a child.

I am not a proponent of the death penalty, as I believe the State does not have the right to take a life. If he is placed in federal prison, he will likely end up in protective custody, as inmates with his history tend to end up as someone's toy, or are found beaten to death in the showers. In the end, IMO, karma will take its course.

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Meezer77 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:15 am

Justsit wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:09 am
Meezer77 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:40 pm
He was highly successful and pretty much had everything. I wonder why he needed to hurt children. Hopefully the victims will be able to heal and move on after this. I think he would be better off with the death penalty.
He meets the criteria for Pedophilic Disorder as defined in the DSM 5. He may also have been molested as a child.

I am not a proponent of the death penalty, as I believe the State does not have the right to take a life. If he is placed in federal prison, he will likely end up in protective custody, as inmates with his history tend to end up as someone's toy, or are found beaten to death in the showers. In the end, IMO, karma will take its course.
Are you a mental health professional? Just curious. Yeah, I was thinking it might be more humane to kill him as his life won't be worth living because there's so much hatred towards him.

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Justsit » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:49 am

Meezer77 wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:15 am
Are you a mental health professional? Just curious. Yeah, I was thinking it might be more humane to kill him as his life won't be worth living because there's so much hatred towards him.
Not mental health specifically, have been an RN for 30 years and have some psych background. I also do some medical chart reviews for quality assurance; I look for health care providers' compliance with medical standards, some of which include a psych component. In conjunction with those activities I have familiarity with DSM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosti ... _Disorders

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Justsit » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:09 pm

BBC coverage of the testimony of some of the 156 women who spoke in court. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42725339

Dr. Nassar was sentenced today to 40-175 years in prison for child sexual abuse; this is in addition to the 60 year sentence to federal prison he is already serving for child pornography charges.

A letter from one of the victims to the president of MIchigan State University, which allowed Dr. Nassar "to see patients for 16 months while he was under criminal investigation by its own police department after a 2014 allegation of sexual assault by a female patient." https://www.freep.com/story/news/column ... 061207001/

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Re: Larry Nasser

Post by Meezer77 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:14 pm

Let's hope he stays in jail and his appeal doesn't change that.

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