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MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by Circle5 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 am

Remember that topic of mine complaining about the legalizing of corruption that was pushed in february 2017 with, and the huge protests that took place, biggest since the 89' revolution ? That woman from MSNBC is equally amused by the situation. You have to consider it was not only pardoning of politicians convicted or on trial for corruption, but the bill also legalized it. I remember a title "instead of legalizing marijuana, Romania is legalizing corruption".

This time the situation is even worse. The again started with this legalizing of corruption stuff + something much more dangerous, the subordonation of the justice system to politics instead of being separate powers in the state. Such a thing was possible in Poland so they are trying it here and has huge chances to pass.

To make the situation even more funny, the corrupt socialist leader got in a power war with the prime minister named by him 2 times and he destroyed his own government 2 times in just 1 year. This was done trough hard wars cause the 2 prime ministers didn't wana leave and he had to force them out. We are now at the 3rd new government imposed by him.

This situation will hopefully make people in USA outraged by useless tweed realize why I always cared so little about USA politics, it's only the PC ridiculousness that bothered me. I mean just imagine a party who just took down it's own government though a 2 weeks war that was non-stop on TV, for the second time in a single year after winning the election, having absolutely no concern about public opinion and pushing this legalizing corruption insanity once again + anting the antes 10 times higher with the subordonation of the justice system stuff. And don't bother too much asking how can they possibly continue to get voted. Putin is standing at 80% popular support assasinating journalist like nobody business. You can do anything if you control the press.


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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by Circle5 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:29 am

I want to add that Rachel Maddow report is very badly documented. She said the charges for the socialist leader are "in the 20.000$ range" when they are in the 29 million dollar range, stolen in the most obvious way possible. And these 29 million problems are just a part of the problem. He also had a lot of illegal stuff happening in Brazil where he has hidden his money.

The thing about the 48.000 euro was something meant for the future not for the past. For the past there was the "law of amnesty and gratiation" that would have deleted all corruption convictions or trials that were happening in that moment. The 48.000 euro stuff was exclusively for the future and it's much bigger than that because if you do 10 contracts on 10 different relatives with 48.000 euro, you are legal to steal half a million like that. And many do it like that already. Though indeed million dollar level corruption would have still been illegal.

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by Circle5 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:12 am

Appearantly I got her wrong. The 20.000 trial was indeed a thing at the time of the february 2017 push but it was peanuts, nobody cared about that. The 29 million trial was started by european union anti-fraud department about 4 months ago.

Still she is wrong about these protests being about legalizing corruption and about them being successful. Nobody cares about legalizing corruption anymore since the big deal now is the complete subordonation of the justice system. The antes has been rised 10 times. And protests were not as big as before and I don't think they'll care about them.

This is actually the idea behind the plan. They are now pushing for this subordonation of the justice system and stuff like legalizing corruption is put in there only to have something to concede to the protestors. That's not the big deal this time.

Also, it's worth nothing there are dozens of incredibly stupid stuff put in these law packages and many "dedication laws". For example making false testifying legal just because the second post important politician from the ruling coalition has a problem with that in a trial. And this is just one out of dozens of examples. They could not care even the slightest how this thing looks to voters cause they can spin it all out with their TV channels.

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by Circle5 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 pm

Just as before, appearently nobody gives a damn about the situation in Romania. A random Trump tweet is more important than this. It is good to realize USA has only 5% of world population and what is happening in other places, especially withing the EU, is just as important.

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Post by DooDoot » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:09 am

Circle5 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 pm
Just as before, apparently nobody gives a damn about the situation in Romania.
I care. :heart:

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by retrofuturist » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:03 am

Greetings,
DooDoot wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:09 am
Circle5 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 pm
Just as before, apparently nobody gives a damn about the situation in Romania.
I care. :heart:
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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by SDC » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:23 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 pm
Just as before, appearently nobody gives a damn about the situation in Romania. A random Trump tweet is more important than this. It is good to realize USA has only 5% of world population and what is happening in other places, especially withing the EU, is just as important.
I don't really care much for vampires, but sorry your country is in turmoil.

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by Circle5 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:50 pm

SDC wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:23 pm
Circle5 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 pm
Just as before, appearently nobody gives a damn about the situation in Romania. A random Trump tweet is more important than this. It is good to realize USA has only 5% of world population and what is happening in other places, especially withing the EU, is just as important.
I don't really care much for vampires, but sorry your country is in turmoil.
Speaking of that guy, he was actually a real person - Vlad the Impaler. "Dracula" was his real name and meant "the devil" or "the dragon". Strange I never brought it up here.

Despite all the sadism, he is considered a national hero over here and has been my favorite guy ever since learning about him in middle school at history lessons. His biggest acomplishment was defeating 150-200k turks lead by the sultan himself with only 20-30k troops.

And all he did was not only against all odds but in extraordinary fashion. He was a very spectacular guy. His record is so long, but I will list some small parts of it that have to do with military success:

- turks emissars are sent to ask him for tribute. Right from the start he tells them that he finds it highly disrespectful for them to wear their turbans when speaking with him so they should first remove them. They answer that it is their costum to never take them down. He then nailed their turbans to their heads so that they never take them down.

- turks then call him to the boarder supposedly to discuss a border problem but intended to assasinate him. He surounds them and impales 24.000 turks along the boarder to send a signal about not passing that line. Then he started a crusade in bulgaria and serbia killings tens of thousands with extreme brutality, indiscriminately impaling every person he could get his hands on. Worth noting that impaling is a bad way to die, you die in 2-3 days not on the spot.

- the sultan was absolutally enraged of course and goes into Wallachia with 150k - 200k army after him. Vlad the Impaler starts waging a guerrila war, being among the first people in history to wage a guerila war. He poisoned the wells, burned all the fields so there will be no food, sent people carrying pleague within enemy lines to infect them, and killed small parts of them that were too scattered from the big group.

- turks reach a city and start to besiege it, but Vlad launches his famous "Night Attack". He and his brother lived their childhood in turkey as a guarantee that their father will keep paying his tribute, but unlike his brother, he never changed his religion and always hated the turks. So he knew how to speak turkish and attacked them in the night trying to assasinate the sultan. He didn't manage to do that but he started a crazy fight. Turks fighted among themselves all the night and they were destroyed until morning.

- Sultan wanted to give up but was convinced to march a little more and attack the capital. When they reached the capital, it was empty and gates were open, having tens of thousands of turks impaled inside. Then the sultan said:
The sultan's army entered into the area of the impalements, which was seventeen stades long and seven stades wide. There were large stakes there on which, as it was said, about twenty thousand men, women, and children had been spitted, quite a sight for the Turks and the sultan himself. The sultan was seized with amazement and said that it was not possible to deprive of his country a man who had done such great deeds, who had such a diabolical understanding of how to govern his realm and its people. And he said that a man who had done such things was worth much. The rest of the Turks were dumbfounded when they saw the multitude of men on the stakes. There were infants too affixed to their mothers on the stakes, and birds had made their nests in their entrails.

— Laonikos Chalkokondyles: The Histories
Defeating such a huge army was something incredible and was celebrated in all europe and the Pope liked him. But he was a little too brutal in internal affairs, impaling a lot of people, impaling huge parts of the aristrocracy, etc. Because of this people started spreading a lot of stories about him, many of them lies in order to ruin his image to other kings. No doubt he was a very brutal guy even for the period in which he lived and he really did quite a lot of sadistic stuff that I have not mentioned here. There are many sadistic stories that are actually true. But he was a military genius and as insane as they get.

Only guy with much more spectacular military success than him was Stephan the Great, his cousin that was rulling in Moldavia at the same time as Vlad was rulling in Wallachia. Stephan the Great is nr 2 after Napoleon in terms of battles won. He won 52 out of 54 battles and the 2 that he lost were not important cause he quickly recovered and won again. Many of these battles were fought against incredible odds, the usual 30k armed peasants vs 150k proffesional soldiers ratio. He had enemies everywhere around him - the turks, the polish, the hungarians, the mongols. He ruled until very old age and all his life he remained independent. His most famous battle was the Battle of Vaslui where he defeated the huge army that conquered Constantinople just a year before, probably most powerful army in the world at that moment.

If it was not for these 2 kings, the turks would have conquered central europe 100 years earlier, they might have expanded much further. Europe history might have been totally different without these 2 warlords that kept winning against incredible odds because turks always tried to impose their religion on conquered lands, resulting in things like Bosnia or Albania. And just imagine the insanity of ruling a super small country but doing all there is in your power to provoke the huge otoman empire like Vlad the Impaler did. He wasn't even on the defensive, he started the whole problem by himself and he didn't leave even a small door open for a possible settlement afterwards. He made it clear that he was all in from day 1.

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by SDC » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:08 pm

I mean this when I say it: good post.

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Post by Circle5 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:14 pm

And what's a story without a meme ? :mrgreen:
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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by SDC » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm

:lol:

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Re: MSNBC Rachel Maddow funny report on Romania situation lol

Post by DooDoot » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:11 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:14 pm
And what's a story without a meme ?
Just as before, recently Syrians were being impaled in Syria by US-allies but, apparently, nobody gave a damn about the situation in Syria (until Putin). Note: viewer discretion of this link is advised; for mature practitioners only. Soon, the Western media will call a new 'Holocaust' for Idlib.


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