Trump - One Year

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by pulga » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:22 pm

There have been some abuses of the H-1B Visa Program. The Trump Administration just wants to address those abuses and to set up a program that favors Americans and secures their jobs, rather than granting visas for people living abroad to replace them. With the increase in corporate investment in the United States the President is anticipating, I'm sure he would welcome the expertise and ambition that Indians bring to our society. Just consider all the Indo-Americans he's placed in positions of authority in his administration.

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by lyndon taylor » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:12 pm

He also wants to MAWA; Make America White Again
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by Pseudobabble » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:47 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:12 pm
He also wants to MAWA; Make America White Again
What media sources do you generally use lyndon? I am interested.
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"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta


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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by lyndon taylor » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:14 pm

MSN, BBC, ABC(Aust), UPI
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:01 pm

Daniel Greenfield on the new "Cold Civil War":

http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2018/ ... a-tea.html

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by retrofuturist » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:04 pm

Greetings Lyndon,
lyndon taylor wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:12 pm
He also wants to MAWA; Make America White Again
Says who?

Or is this just childish slander bandied about by Maxine Waters types?

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by retrofuturist » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:07 pm

Greetings Chownah,

This link may help in understanding the situation regarding Steele..

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dossi ... le/2648099

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:07 am

I just watched a video of Trevor Noah on The Daily Show and he said something so simply which I think explains alot about what is going on that I thought I'd just bring it here:
"The republicans don't need credible to advance their narrative; all nunes has to say is that he has something important and damning and the propoganda machine will do the rest."

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:17 am

Greetings,

Ironically, it's Trevor Noah who is part of what could more rightly be called the "propaganda machine", but that will all come to show itself in due course.

In the meantime, a memo by the Senate Judiciary (aka the Grassley memo) has been released in a slightly less redacted form today, shedding further light on the relationships between Clinton's associates, Steele, Fusion GPS, the FBI and the FISA Court.

It comes today in a slightly less redacted manner as it was argued that aspects of the Grassley memo were no longer confidential, since they had already been made public via the declassified Nunes memo.

Again, well worth a read.

In summary, it's not the "propaganda machine" that the corrupt individuals need to be concerned about, it's this gentleman.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:39 am

When people think of the steele dossier they primarily think about the salacious parts. It seems that not all of the dossier was presented to the FISA court and only the parts of the dossier which related to carter page were included and that at least some of those parts were corroborated. If this is true then it adds to the ridiculousness of those who support the memo:
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/ ... n-fbi-doj/

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:50 am

Greetings,
chownah wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:39 am
When people think of the steele dossier they primarily think about the salacious parts. It seems that not all of the dossier was presented to the FISA court and only the parts of the dossier which related to carter page were included and that at least some of those parts were corroborated.
In recent weeks it's become increasingly apparent that Carter Page actually worked for intelligence agencies from 2013-2016, in order to entrap Russian spies. Whether it was opportunism from an FBI who turned on him, or whether he was a deliberate plant within the Trump campaign remains unclear at this point. (Manafort and Papadopoulos almost certainly were plants, based on their connections to the Podesta Group and the Clinton State Department respectively). Page cannot publicly say any of this of course (which is why it's not common knowledge) as he's bound by non-disclosure agreements with the FBI, but he's been allowed a reprieve from the NDA to present his case to the formal committees.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:51 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:07 pm
Greetings Chownah,

This link may help in understanding the situation regarding Steele..

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dossi ... le/2648099

Metta,
Paul. :)
I've taken a first look at the article and will perhaps be examining it more closely. So far it seems like alot of churn. No time line at all on the events it mentions for example....and it doesn't really paint a complete picture of anything of substance that I have seen so far...mostly just bits and pieces of what could be fairly disconnected events woven together in a big conspiracy theory. I have not ruled out the possibility of conspiracy but this article does very little to substantiate one....if just sort of inspires one to think that one is possible.

Also, it doesn't say anything to fill in my questions about the generation of the dossier....although I did just see (and posted above) a video which claims that only parts of the dossier were used in the fisa application and that at least some of those parts which were used were corroborated....I'm not sure if all of the parts used were corroborated.

Also, has anyone mentioned that the evidence given to fisa actually did contain a footnote which notified fisa that the dossier was produced by a political entity so contrary to what many memo supporters have claimed there was a heads up on the possibility of political bias in the writing of the memos....but then it seems that some or perhaps all of it was coroborated any way.
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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:56 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:17 am
Greetings,

Ironically, it's Trevor Noah who is part of what could more rightly be called the "propaganda machine", but that will all come to show itself in due course.

In the meantime, a memo by the Senate Judiciary (aka the Grassley memo) has been released in a slightly less redacted form today, shedding further light on the relationships between Clinton's associates, Steele, Fusion GPS, the FBI and the FISA Court.

It comes today in a slightly less redacted manner as it was argued that aspects of the Grassley memo were no longer confidential, since they had already been made public via the declassified Nunes memo.

Again, well worth a read.

In summary, it's not the "propaganda machine" that the corrupt individuals need to be concerned about, it's this gentleman.

Metta,
Paul. :)
You have really bought into this conspiracy theory. This is understandable in that it would take a pretty big fantasy to explain why nunes wrote such a dumbass memo and how it has been promoted in such a horse's ass sort of way....there really isn't any other way to deal with the memo other than expanding the conspiracy theory.

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:56 am

Greetings,

More on Carter Page's FBI connections here... (Twitter thread with included links)



Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump - One Year

Post by chownah » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:01 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:50 am
Greetings,
chownah wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:39 am
When people think of the steele dossier they primarily think about the salacious parts. It seems that not all of the dossier was presented to the FISA court and only the parts of the dossier which related to carter page were included and that at least some of those parts were corroborated.
In recent weeks it's become increasingly apparent that Carter Page actually worked for intelligence agencies from 2013-2015, in order to entrap Russian spies. Whether it was opportunism from an FBI who turned on him, or whether he was a deliberate plant within the Trump campaign remains unclear at this point. (Manafort and Papadopoulos almost certainly were plants, based on their connections to the Podesta Group and the Clinton State Department respectively). Page cannot publicly say any of this of course (which is why it's not common knowledge) as he's bound by non-disclosure agreements with the FBI, but he's been allowed a reprieve from the NDA to present his case to the formal committees.

Metta,
Paul. :)
Nothing is substantiated here....just more churn....
Does pubicly presenting this churn help in showing the case for conspiracy?....I don't think so. If this stuff is real then all the churn will not help bring it out and it will either come out or not regardless of the churn.
Does publicly presenting this churn in helping trump fight against the mueller investigation?...trump seems to think so...he uses every drop of this churn that he is able to use.
Seems there is no advantage to the churn....only disadvantage....
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