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Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:44 am
by alan
Steve Bannon is a weird dude. He's a Nihilist. He says says things just to get attention. All that is true. But does it mean that everything he says is a lie? I don't know. What he says in this article rings true to me.
There is a new book coming out, from a respected journalist. Quotes Bannon extensively, and also some new reporting which I think everyone should read.
Because if the reality if half this bad, we should all be worried. You guys know I am anti-Trump. But I will never report fake news. Read this excerpt from the book, and then tell me why you are not afraid, and do not hate Trump.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... trump.html

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:46 am
by DooDoot
What I have observed in life is how evil people collude together for mutual interests then nastily stab each other in the back at later times.

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:18 pm
by Sam Vara
alan wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:44 am
Read this excerpt from the book, and then tell me why you are not afraid, and do not hate Trump.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... trump.html
Having read it, I'm not afraid because partisan political journalism is usually nothing to fear. I have no way of verifying the contents, and therefore have no reason to even suppose it true. I don't hate Trump because, as per other threads on him, hatred is an unwise response to any situation where it can be avoided.

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:51 am
by chownah
Sam Vara wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:18 pm
alan wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:44 am
Read this excerpt from the book, and then tell me why you are not afraid, and do not hate Trump.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... trump.html
Having read it, I'm not afraid because partisan political journalism is usually nothing to fear. I have no way of verifying the contents, and therefore have no reason to even suppose it true. I don't hate Trump because, as per other threads on him, hatred is an unwise response to any situation where it can be avoided.
Yeah, hard to know if there is any truth in this at all.....but one can make an educated guess....but even after making that guess one should hold their views very very lightly 'cause its only a guess.
While the article does at face seem like partisan political I was surprised when I looked at the author himself and read a couple of his works. Here is the link from the article which leads to the stuff about wolff:
http://nymag.com/author/Michael%20Wolff/
I read large parts of two of his articles those being:
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/ ... ures/3918/
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/col ... alife/153/
I'm not trying to drag this thread off topic but I was surprised that the author seems to view be able to comment on thing political from a seemingly non-partisan perspective.
chownah

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:37 am
by Sam Vara
chownah wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:51 am

Yeah, hard to know if there is any truth in this at all.....but one can make an educated guess....but even after making that guess one should hold their views very very lightly 'cause its only a guess.
While the article does at face seem like partisan political I was surprised when I looked at the author himself and read a couple of his works. Here is the link from the article which leads to the stuff about wolff:
http://nymag.com/author/Michael%20Wolff/
I read large parts of two of his articles those being:
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/ ... ures/3918/
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/col ... alife/153/
I'm not trying to drag this thread off topic but I was surprised that the author seems to view be able to comment on thing political from a seemingly non-partisan perspective.
chownah
Many thanks, Chownah. The links look interesting - particularly the Hillary one - and I agree with your point about holding one's opnions lightly on such matters. Wolff certainly is a good writer, and my guess is that he prioritises that writingand selling copy above any partisan allegiances.

The dramaturgical style of the article raises a couple of problems for me. On the one hand, the ordinary reader has no way of verifying even attibutable quotes and conversations. Tony Blair has been busy denying that he had the conversations that Wolff attributes to him
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42561680
and this has even been reported in The Guardian, which hates Trump with a passion:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... gchq-spied
I expect there are other rebuttals should one care to look for them.

The other problem is that Wolff's account tends to veer into asumptions about what or how Trump and others were thinking; analysis of motivation and character which usually require far more positive evidence, and the longer view that is attained by biography or history, rather than journalism.

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:23 pm
by chownah
An article from bloomberg about the ongoing row beteween trump and bannon concerning the wolff book ends with:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-is ... 23129.html
Walsh is quoted saying that working for Trump was “like trying to figure out what a child wants.” She has denied making the remark.

Wolff has “dozens of hours” of recordings to back up quotes in his book, including conversations with Walsh and Bannon, Axios reported on Thursday.
This might get interesting........
chownah

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:08 pm
by No_Mind
Customer reviews from Amazon of "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House"

https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Inside ... merReviews

:namaste:

No_Mind

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:58 am
by Dhammarakkhito
sloppy steve trying to make a buck; it's sad

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:10 am
by DNS
Actually, it's Michael Wolff who wrote the book, not Bannon. Perhaps the thread title should be changed? Or was it Bannon who supplied Wolff with the information for the book?

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:57 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings,

Sounds like fan fiction for the #Resistance, to be honest.

Metta,
Paul. :)

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:05 am
by lyndon taylor
Are you going to miss Steve Bannon, Retro??

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:14 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings Lyndon,

Miss him in what capacity?

People don't mysteriously ended up suicided with two bullets to the back of the head when they do wrong by Trump.

:lol:

Metta,
Paul. :)

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:20 am
by lyndon taylor
Well partly as head of Breibart news, a news source you have quoted extensively, word is their board of directors is looking to let him go, I imagine he could fade into obscurity with the level of attacks Trump is going to pull on him, his ability to be a mover and shaker in Republican circles looks to be almost over. What do you think??

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:22 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings Lyndon,

I don't really have strong feelings either way what he does, so long as he doesn't make a career out of white-anting Trump.

Metta,
Paul. :)

Re: Bannon tells all in new book about Trump

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:29 am
by lyndon taylor
Just out of curiosity, Retro, do you have the same positive feelings for Malcolm Turnbull or Tony Abbott that you have for Trump, who is your favourite?? I can't help but wonder if you actually lived in the USA if your positive take on Trump might be less so??