If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by alan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:34 am

Retro: I'll say even some FOX people can tell the truth. Shep is ok by me.
But don't get the thing about Trump can now finished what JKF started.

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by DooDoot » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:00 am

alan wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:34 am
But don't get the thing about Trump can now finished what JKF started.
Trump won't finish what JFK started, which included:

1. Stopping Israel acquiring nuclear weapons.
Declassified: How Israel Misled the U.S. About Its Nuclear Program
Ben-Gurion’s mumbling to Kennedy helped delay the Americans’ assessment that Jerusalem was on the verge of building a bomb.
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.715741

John F. Kennedy Administration: Policy on Israel’s Nuclear Program

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ken ... ar-program
2. Registering AIPAC (The American Israel Public Affairs Committee) as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
This morning the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and out of the blue South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham brought up AIPAC — the Israel lobby group the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. AIPAC comes to Capitol Hill “in droves” and has a lot of contacts in Israel so maybe it should be considered a “foreign agent?” Graham asked.

http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/lindsey-whether-capitol/

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by alan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:05 am

That makes no sense.

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:08 am

Greetings Alan,
alan wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:05 am
That makes no sense.
Hopefully this makes more sense to you... (and adds additional context to my previous posts in this topic)



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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by alan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:47 am

it proves what I already knew--JfK was an excellent speaker. I even like his high class Boston accent.
But, nothing there proves the point you wanted to make, which is....?
Not sure what point you wanted it to prove, or why this proves it.
What point did you want to prove?

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:57 am

Greetings,
alan wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:47 am
But, nothing there proves the point you wanted to make, which is....?
If you don't know what the point is, how would you know if it was made or not?

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alan wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:47 am
Not sure what point you wanted it to prove, or why this proves it.
What point did you want to prove?
It's about the covert infiltration of government, which is known nowadays as "the deep state". JFK knew...



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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by alan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:02 am

JFK was referring to the Russians, and Communist states in general, of course.
How you heard this another way is just bizarre to me.

Is that pic a joke? I think you are just having fun. No one could post something like that with a straight face.
Right?

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

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Re: If you are not guilty, you don't act like a guilty person, right?

Post by Pseudobabble » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:24 pm

alan wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:42 am
Friends, most of you have been on an airplane. Here in America, the security makes you go through a ridiculous process. Take off your shoes, take off your belt. No liquids other than 100 milliliters, or whatever. Grandmas have to take off their shoes.
Because there was a guy who had a bomb in his contact lens, or his foot. Whatever. This is total nonsense.
I think the Israelis have it right--they look for those acting guilty. Much more efficient.
I've been through Israeli security a few times, on my way to Jerusalem. Here's how they do it--they look for those who look nervous, or guilty.

So, my point is this: If Trump is not guilty, why is he acting in such a manner? If he is not guilty, why did he fire the FBI director, who was looking into Russia ties?
And if Trump is not guilty, why is he always saying that the Mueller probe is: ("A Hoax", "Fake News", etc).
Because I think he is nervous, and acting exactly like a guilty person would. If he was not guilty, he'd just say, I welcome this, I will be proven right, let then go. But he does not say that, does he? You know why? Because he is guilty, that is why.

Guilty people are afraid of being caught, so they lie, and make everyone else who does not believe them to be bad.
Innocent people are not afraid, so they have no reason to do this, Right?

Problem with this is twofold:

1) There are no innocents
2) When faced with the embodiment of power (uniforms, guns, etc), it is normal for a person to display fear
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