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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Mr Man » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:59 am
Saudi Arabia, who are on the up...
Hmm. They still like to behead people, and generally their human rights record is dire.
And still bombing Yemen.

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Pseudobabble » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:33 am

Mr Man wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 am
Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:59 am
Saudi Arabia, who are on the up...
Hmm. They still like to behead people, and generally their human rights record is dire.
And still bombing Yemen.
They're as bad as each other.
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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Dinsdale » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:37 am

Mr Man wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 am
Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:59 am
Saudi Arabia, who are on the up...
Hmm. They still like to behead people, and generally their human rights record is dire.
And still bombing Yemen.
Using a lot of UK ordnance, I gather.
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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Mr Man » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:44 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:37 am
Mr Man wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 am
Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 am


Hmm. They still like to behead people, and generally their human rights record is dire.
And still bombing Yemen.
Using a lot of UK ordnance, I gather.
Yes :(

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by DooDoot » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:15 am

Real news.

Syrian soldiers, who are multi-faith Christian & Muslim but mostly Sunni Muslim, put US-Saudi-Wahhabi-Al Qaeda terrorists on a bus for transport to a terrorist town (where hopefully these terrorists can be exported back through NATO Turkey, where they originated from). Can you imagine if the situation was vice versa and these cannibals were the ones tightening the siege on the Syrian army? The Muslim residents of East Ghouta celebrate their freedom while the Western politicians & mass-media work feverishly to maintain the terrorist presence in East Ghouta.



In this video, a German political delegation to Syria praised the (secular yet Islamic) Syrian govt & criticises the German mass-media.



Story Of Syrian Girl From Damascus - Lost Her Leg In Mortar Attack By (American supported) Ghouta Islamists


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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Dinsdale » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:24 am

Mr Man wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:44 am
Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:37 am
Mr Man wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 am


And still bombing Yemen.
Using a lot of UK ordnance, I gather.
Yes :(
I gather we are selling them some Typhoon jets.

Guilty pleasure: I like watching fast jets at airshows, Typhoons are very impressive. :popcorn:
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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Circle5 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:45 pm

I don't know why people sometimes criticize Saudi Arabia decision not to allow woman to drive. That's probably the only good thing they ever did. It was probably done because of the same reason that non-muslims sometimes contemplate banning woman driving. And the whole idea about this being due to religious reasons is probably their way of being PC about it. I can't believe people actually fall for the "religious reasons" argument lol.

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by aflatun » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:13 pm

Circle5 wrote:
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I don't know why people sometimes criticize Saudi Arabia decision not to allow woman to drive. That's probably the only good thing they ever did. It was probably done because of the same reason that non-muslims sometimes contemplate banning woman driving. And the whole idea about this being due to religious reasons is probably their way of being PC about it. I can't believe people actually fall for the "religious reasons" argument lol.
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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Sam Vara » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:33 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:45 pm
I don't know why people sometimes criticize Saudi Arabia decision not to allow woman to drive. That's probably the only good thing they ever did. It was probably done because of the same reason that non-muslims sometimes contemplate banning woman driving. And the whole idea about this being due to religious reasons is probably their way of being PC about it. I can't believe people actually fall for the "religious reasons" argument lol.
...And so soon after International Women's Day!

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by DooDoot » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:48 am

Good Muslims set free from American-backed tyranny. :|


Military Spending in the United States. In fiscal year 2015, military spending is projected to account for 54 percent of all federal discretionary spending, a total of $598.5 billion.


Emergence of more Muslim demonstrations in support of Syrian army, demanding US-Jihadi rebels to get out #EastGhouta. Huge embarrassment to Western media who lied all along that the people of East Ghouta despised legitimate government.


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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Circle5 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:41 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:48 am
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So now you switched back from defending islamic terrorism and Sharia Law? How about the "great islamic values" promoted by these radicals in eastern ghouta ? At least they were following Sharia Law that you love to much. Do you really want these great values to be replaced by the secular and western-influenced Assad regime, that does not respect Sharia Law ? You want these people form eastern ghouta to be able to travel freely to Damascus and play at casinos ? You want woman from eastern ghouta to be allowed at a football match ? Hell, they do not even wear scarfs in Assad controlled area. Are you sure you agree with this destruction of "great islamic values of Sharia law" for people in Eastern Ghouta ? You really want them "westernized" ?

I mean you were totally in love with Sharia Law not long ago and claimed it's the best thing ever while western, secular type of values are the work of the devil. You said it is good to have religious dictatorship in Iran because it is promoting Sharia Law that is so great. Now you want people from eastern ghouta to get conquered by a secular regime and stop respecting Sharia Law ?

When did this shift in thinking happen to you ?

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Circle5 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:02 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:09 am
6. If we believe the religion of Islam did 9/11 & nurtures terrorists, we justify the murdering of millions of good Muslim people & non-Muslim people who live in Muslim nations that were unrelated to 9/11.

7. GW Bush said: "you are either with us or with terrorists" but it has become quite evident the US govt & the terrorists had/have the same goals in Iraq, Libya, Syria & maybe Iran. It has become quite evident the "US govt is with the terrorists" and "the terrorists are with the US govt".

8. This is why the corporate mass media continues to support Al Qaeda terrorists in East Gouta, in the exact same way they supported Al Qaeda terrorists in Allepo.

9. $6 trillion spent since 2001 from the US taxpayer comprising of 1/3 of the US govt debt on a War on Terror; yet the terror grows.
How about what Putin did to "The religion of Islam" ?????? How about the russian 9/11

After Boris Eltin chose Putin to be his successor and made him prime-minister, he was standing at 12% in the polls. He staged the bombing of many 11-15 story high buildings in order to declare war on Chechnia. Second day after the bombing, KGB officers were caught in the basement of such a building next to a big ammount of explosive that did not go up. This got in the press and was a big scandal because the press was still free at the time in Russia. The KGB response was that they were doing an exercise, training to prevent such an attack if it were to happen. You really can't get more obvious than that when it comes to staging terrorist attacks.

After that, Putin declared war on Checnia, imposed military law and suspended the ellections. Sure enought by the time the war ended, he was in control of the media and his popularity has skyrocketed due to the war.

So what is DootDot opinion about the poor muslims living in Checnia that had these staged bombings blamed on them, and then got their capital turned into dust ? Chechnia was bombed with 40.000 artilery shells per day. It was literally turned into dust and many poor muslims died.

What is DootDot opinion about that ? I've never heard him say anything about the poor muslims from Chechnia turned into dust by Putin.

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by DooDoot » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:46 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:41 pm
So now you switched back from defending islamic terrorism and Sharia Law? How about the "great islamic values" promoted by these radicals in eastern ghouta ?
Excellent update here about how the good Christian & Muslims of Syria are expelling as humanely as possible the US-backed Jihadists of East Ghouta. Please remember Al Qaeda was created by the USA & fought for US objectives in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Libya, Iraq & Syria and also Nigeria (Boko Haram).


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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by Circle5 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:32 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:46 pm
Circle5 wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:41 pm
So now you switched back from defending islamic terrorism and Sharia Law? How about the "great islamic values" promoted by these radicals in eastern ghouta ?
Excellent update here about how the good Christian & Muslims of Syria are expelling as humanely as possible the US-backed Jihadists of East Ghouta. Please remember Al Qaeda was created by the USA & fought for US objectives in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Libya, Iraq & Syria and also Nigeria (Boko Haram).
I am totally for liberating East Ghouta from formely US backed (untill last months of Obama) jihadist. And as you know I am a big map geek and watching closely that map on www.syriancivilwarmap.com

But as for US creating Al-Qaeda, it was of course a great thing to do and I would have done the same. Islamic Jihadist are babies compared to the terrorist backed by URSS at that time, terrorist that assasinated 30% of the population in some places, terrorist that kill infinitelly more people than islamic ones in whatever country they were operating. And they were operating in quite a few, pretty much all across south america, africa, south-east asia and even in europe. There were countless terrorist bomb attacks happening in europe at the time, to say nothing of millions killed in other countries, up to 30% of the population in some.

Name me when did USA backed, Al-Qaeda terrorist ever came close to killing 1% of what URSS backed terrorist were killing ?

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Re: Criticism of Islam

Post by DooDoot » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:23 am

Circle5 wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:32 pm
I am totally for liberating East Ghouta from formely US backed (untill last months of Obama) jihadist.
So your Al Qaeda friends pictured below are unarmed & unsupported orphans :roll: ? Its difficult to believe Bashar El "Chemical Weapons Killing His Own People" Assad would put these cannibals in a bus & ship them back to NATO Turkey via Idlib (rather than execute them; similar to the Tsar in 1905, who let Trotsky, Lenin & other psychopaths go free). Six-hundred US-Alliance cannibals have surrendered so far yet there are obviously many more (if the video below is the real deal).

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