Abhayagiri Community is safe

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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by pilgrim » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:32 am

Will wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:44 pm
Dhamma protectors at work :bow: :bow: :bow:
Ajahn Jotipālo recounted one experience talking with a firefighting crew from New Mexico:

I asked the crew from New Mexico how it was fighting the fire. They had been on the property for about 5 days. They said it was the weirdest thing, like the monastery refused to burn.
They said one evening (probably the day Timothy Luke was forced to leave Mt. Tabor, when he reported seeing 200 foot tall flames on the ridge) that 10 battalions (20 to a battalion) were out on the loop trail fighting the fires coming down from the ridge. They reported that the fires got down to the loop trail but the fire wouldn’t cross the trail. They said it was like the monastery refused to burn, and none of them could explain it. They reported their hair standing on it’s end and then the fire reversed itself and went back up the mountain. Everybody was kind of freaked-out, as they had never seen anything like this.
I asked several of the other crews about their experience and they all reported about this.
Also at Dhammadharini Bhikkhuni monastery as reported by Ayya Tathaloka

"Friends, earlier with less detailed mapping, it had looked like our old Dhammadharini Vihara on Grange Rd in Santa Rosa's Bennett Valley had burned in the #SonomaCountyFire, and this was reported to us a couple of days ago.
However - the satellite photo burn map seems to show otherwise, and the graphic fire map shows the same--the fire appears to have come within a few feet of our old vihara main building and the barn, but to have spared both of these."

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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:32 am

Will wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:44 pm
Dhamma protectors at work :bow: :bow: :bow:
Ajahn Jotipālo recounted one experience talking with a firefighting crew from New Mexico:

I asked the crew from New Mexico how it was fighting the fire. They had been on the property for about 5 days. They said it was the weirdest thing, like the monastery refused to burn.
They said one evening (probably the day Timothy Luke was forced to leave Mt. Tabor, when he reported seeing 200 foot tall flames on the ridge) that 10 battalions (20 to a battalion) were out on the loop trail fighting the fires coming down from the ridge. They reported that the fires got down to the loop trail but the fire wouldn’t cross the trail. They said it was like the monastery refused to burn, and none of them could explain it. They reported their hair standing on it’s end and then the fire reversed itself and went back up the mountain. Everybody was kind of freaked-out, as they had never seen anything like this.
I asked several of the other crews about their experience and they all reported about this.
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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by DNS » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:07 am

Lucas Oliveira wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:36 am
Fire Update, October 17-18, 2017
https://www.abhayagiri.org/news/222-fir ... 17-18-2017
Good news! :thumbsup:

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Post by samseva » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:39 am

Wow, from the text and pictures (and from Ajahn Jotipālo), every time the fire approached something that belonged to the monastery, it stopped or turned arround. Apparently the only thing they lost was part of a small wooden bridge and 2 wooden steps.

Their neighbour's home completely burnt down, except for one thing—a plastic Buddharūpa.

Work of devas, maybe? :smile:

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Post by Garrib » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:03 am

Absolutely amazing - very good news!!!

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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:14 pm

Mendocino Monks Return From Fiery Exile

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/M ... 29893.html



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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Will » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:06 pm

Good to hear that the Orthodox monks' monastery also was saved.

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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:01 pm

We were extraordinarily fortunate to have experienced no damage to any of our structures, except possibly minimal damage to one of our ridge water tanks. There are likely many reasons for this blessing, with most of the credit going to the excellent work done by the multiple fire-fighting crews from many different areas. We also believe there must have been some very powerful protective forces on the property looking after the monastery as we had fires coming from several directions that seemed to unexpectedly reverse direction.

On a more mundane level, we feel that the fire protection measures that we took prior to the fire (defensible clearances around buildings, trail maintenance, fire breaks, emergency procedures, etc.) were also very helpful. One thing we learned from this fire is that even with the extensive measures we have taken, we need to do more.

https://www.abhayagiri.org/news/225-fun ... aintenance


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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:21 am

Ajahn Sucitto's reflections on this event:
As you may know, forest fires recently went raging through northern California. They were moving at twenty-three feet a second, throwing fire balls out a mile ahead of themselves; 5,500 people lost homes and businesses, and 100,000 people were displaced. Abhayagiri monastery, sitting in the midst of this, was evacuated just before the fire reached the area ... A few days later, the community were given the all-clear to return – to find that although neighbouring properties had been torched, the monastery was unscathed. Firefighters were in awe and couldn't understand why the flames had swept down the hillside, touched the two-foot wide trail that circles the monastery – and turned back. For a Buddhist devotee, there's a simple explanation: the monastery, originally gifted by the Sino-American Buddhist Association by Master Hsuan Hua, and now the abiding place of Ajahn Pasanno and a community of practising samanas, is a 'puññakhetta' - a field of goodness where the fires of greed, hatred and delusion are constantly being extinguished. It is therefore protected by its puñña.
As ever, the whole piece is worth reading and thinking about:
http://sucitto.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/t ... f-vow.html

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Post by ToVincent » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:53 pm

Does anyone have the firefighters' testimony? - (or know where we can get it).
They were stationed on premises (huge parking lot, Russian river 25 yards away).

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3647327 ... a=!3m1!1e3
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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:15 pm

ToVincent wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:53 pm
Does anyone have the firefighters' testimony? - (or know where we can get it).
They were stationed on premises (huge parking lot, Russian river 25 yards away).

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3647327 ... a=!3m1!1e3
https://www.abhayagiri.org/gallery/

Fire came down from the ridge, stopping around Goat's Creek

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Ajahn Chah shrine had fire on both sides, but didn't burn

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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by Aloka » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:30 pm

The Catholic Holy Transfiguration Monastery didn't get burned either.


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Re: Abhayagiri Community is safe

Post by ToVincent » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:53 pm

Lucas Oliveira wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:15 pm
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I repeat my question:
Does anyone have the firefighters' testimony? - (or know where we can get it).

The pictures are a real evidence, indeed! - All these ashes next to Ajhan Chah shrine is quite impressive - so such a wonderful occurrence must be related somewhere in the local press, by now.

It's just that I wish I had more from the guys, who lived that incredible "hair raising on end" experience.
I guess that this is not something that a fire fighter lives everyday.

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Aloka wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:30 pm
The Catholic Holy Transfiguration Monastery didn't get burned either.
Yeah!, they also relate their miracle, on their site:
Cal Fire used our Monastery as their base for a couple of days as the flames slowly descended towards the Retreat House, and seeing the handwriting on the mountain, they finally cut a huge firebreak from the high ridge all the way down to Tomki Road, thus sparing our vulnerable structures, including the Sacred Temple.
In this world with its ..., Māras, ... in this population with its ascetics.... (AN 5.30).
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We are all possessed - more or less.
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And what, bhikkhu, is inward rottenness? Here someone is immoral, one of evil character, of impure and suspect behaviour, secretive in his acts, no ascetic though claiming to be one, not a celibate though claiming to be one, inwardly rotten, corrupt, depraved. This is called inward rottenness.”
SN 35.241
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https://justpaste.it/j5o4

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