When otherwise non-political entities become political

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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by binocular » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:57 pm

Sam Vara wrote:Cultural Marxism is held by some to be behind the recent erosion of traditional distinctions and/or values.
I had to look it up. Oh dear.
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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by Aloka » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:30 pm

DooDoot wrote:Instead, of little girls playing with dolls as they used to do, pretending they are mothers, based on the role model of their parents, they can now pretend they are raunchy pop stars, porn stars & gay couples. The cultural Marxism grows & grows and those who disagree with it are demonized & crucified as homophobic, misogynist, antisemitic, Nazi, etc.
Good heavens! I can't comment on the 3 children you saw on a beach in Australia but your comments seem a little OTT if you don't mind me saying so, Mr Doot. (Or may I call you Doo?) Especially your view that seems to suggest that its only wholesome for little girls to play with dolls and pretend they are mothers. I can assure you that many girls these days often have a lot more interesting things to consider for their future careers than dolls and being mothers.

Also, when I was a little girl myself I had no interest in dolls or pretending to be a mother. I was far more interested in kicking a football around and looking at information about space travel - which doesn't mean that I was trying to be a boy or a lesbian either.


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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by DooDoot » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:03 pm

Aloka wrote: Especially your view that seems to suggest that its only wholesome for little girls to play with dolls and pretend they are mothers....I was far more interested in kicking a football around and looking at information about space travel...
Thanks. I do not recall making any such suggestion.'I merely provided an example. Football & space travel are not analogous to pretending to be a rock star, porn star or gay couple and entertaining premature sexual adventures that lead to suffering & the hungry ghost realm. Buddhism does not include a moral (non-harming) precept about football & space travel because these activities do not lead to serious suffering, confusion, addiction &/or arrested development. The Pali suttas say:
Then, when the child is born, she nourishes it with her own blood; for the mother’s breast-milk is called blood in the Noble One’s Discipline. When he grows up and his faculties mature, the child plays at such games as toy ploughs, tipcat, somersaults, toy windmills, toy measures, toy cars, and a toy bow and arrow . MN 38
In five ways, young householder, the parents thus ministered to as the East by their children, show their compassion:

(i) they restrain them from evil,
(ii) they encourage them to do good,
(iii) they train them for a profession,
(iv) they arrange a suitable marriage,
(v) at the proper time they hand over their inheritance to them.

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Aloka wrote: I can assure you that many girls these days often have a lot more interesting things to consider for their future careers than dolls and being mothers....Also, when I was a little girl myself I had no interest in dolls or pretending to be a mother.
So you spent your life gaining happiness from a career unrelated to nurturing children or helping others and then waited until you were much older to pretend to be a mother? Regardless, the corporate feminism you are promoting here is unrelated to Buddhism. Buddhism does not teach happiness can be found & suffering can be ended by a life primarily devoted to making money.

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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by Aloka » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:47 pm

... the corporate feminism you are promoting here....
Oh give it a rest, why don't you ? You sound like your " Men of the Infinite" misogynist pals.


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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by Pseudobabble » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:04 am

Aloka wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:47 pm
... the corporate feminism you are promoting here....
You sound like your " Men of the Infinite" misogynist pals.
Character assassination is fun!
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Re: When otherwise non-political entities become political

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:05 am

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"It is natural that one who knows and sees things as they really are is disenchanted and dispassionate." (AN 10.2)

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