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I am thankful to be an American

Post by Santi253 » Fri May 12, 2017 1:32 am

If you are depressed about the current state of American politics, I recommend watching this documentary series about the rich history which truly makes America great:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIY ... y+of+us%22

Despite its shortcomings, I am thankful for being a citizen of the United States. This is a country where, according to the World Bank, the bottom 5% enjoy a higher standard of living than 68% of the world’s people:
https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011 ... nots/?_r=0

It’s also worth mentioning that there are more Buddhists in the United States than any country outside Asia, one reason being that America is by far the most desired country for the world’s immigrants:
https://citizenpath.com/countries-with- ... mmigrants/

As George Takei explains in this video, the most decorated military unit in American history was made up of volunteers from Japanese internment camps during World War II, who wanted to prove their love and loyalty for their country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeBKBFAPwNc
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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Meggo » Fri May 12, 2017 5:54 am

"Only in america can a 1st generation indian american muslim kid go on a stage and make fun of the president of the united states - the orange man behind the muslim ban."


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Post by Santi253 » Fri May 12, 2017 7:48 am

I just ordered the DVD of America: The Story of US on Amazon for a good price, so that I can watch it with my kids and show them what this country is really about.
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Post by Santi253 » Fri May 12, 2017 10:59 am

I hope the rest of the world can see that Trump doesn’t represent what America really stands for:
http://www.americanow.com/story/society ... -when-they
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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by indianromeo » Fri May 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Here's a worldcat link to find the dvd at your local library: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/741367450

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Post by Santi253 » Fri May 12, 2017 5:36 pm

indianromeo wrote:Here's a worldcat link to find the dvd at your local library: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/741367450
That looks like that's just for the first disc. I am happy that all the parts are on Youtube, even though a certain instatanned person is in them as a commentator.
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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Sam Vara » Fri May 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Although I am not American, I have enormous respect for the country. You are indeed lucky to have that particular cultural heritage to draw on. In general terms, I think appreciation of one's country is an extremely positive thing. If patriotism becomes a strong sense of personal identity which makes detachment difficult, or if it tips over into rivalrous hatred of other countries, then of course it is a hindrance. But otherwise, I think appreciation of one's country is good.

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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by citizenofrome » Fri May 12, 2017 8:49 pm

I agree it is a great country. But about the "great history" part, it sounds a little funny listening to that as a citizen of rome. Houses in our cities that have not been destroyed by the communist are older than the USA. Any person living in a house in Ro, is usually living in a house older than the USA. We even have buildings here from the Dacian period, from before the Romans. We have to learn 2500-3000 years of history for the middle school exam, compared to 250 years for USA.

.... not to mention my native language is latin with slavic accent, while you guys speak barbarian germanic language

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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Kim OHara » Fri May 12, 2017 10:53 pm

Sam Vara wrote:... In general terms, I think appreciation of one's country is an extremely positive thing. If patriotism becomes a strong sense of personal identity which makes detachment difficult, or if it tips over into rivalrous hatred of other countries, then of course it is a hindrance. ...
Agreed.

Australia and the US have strong historical similarities - both young countries built by Europeans who violently displaced indigenous peoples, both ruled as European (especially British) colonies for their first years, both immeasurably enriched in the last 100 years by waves of migrants from one country after another, both now slamming shut the doors on migrants and refugees (we even have our own Guantanamo :shock: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/australia ... w0ppo.html).
That said, there are important differences. If I happened to have been born American, I am sure I would be thankful to be one, but as an Australian I am glad I am not American. :tongue:

And as our Roman friend said ... history? What history? Aussies and Australians reckon 200 years is history. Hardly anyone else does. Remind me again ... when was the Buddha teaching?

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Post by DNS » Fri May 12, 2017 11:02 pm

Yes, there is good and bad in all nations. Nearly all nations displaced some indigenous groups, had histories of discrimination, even slavery, etc. and then improvements. Some nations are doing well now, but have lots of warfare, blood, and discrimination on their hands.

History? I'm thankful to be human, so I've studied 5 million + years of history, biological evolution being one of my favorite subjects. :tongue:

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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Sam Vara » Fri May 12, 2017 11:09 pm

Kim OHara wrote:
Sam Vara wrote:... In general terms, I think appreciation of one's country is an extremely positive thing. If patriotism becomes a strong sense of personal identity which makes detachment difficult, or if it tips over into rivalrous hatred of other countries, then of course it is a hindrance. ...
Agreed.

Australia and the US have strong historical similarities - both young countries built by Europeans who violently displaced indigenous peoples, both ruled as European (especially British) colonies for their first years, both immeasurably enriched in the last 100 years by waves of migrants from one country after another, both now slamming shut the doors on migrants and refugees (we even have our own Guantanamo :shock:
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I tend to see both Australia and America in more positive terms. Let's encourage people to see the good in others.

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Post by Santi253 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:46 pm

Sam Vara wrote:If patriotism becomes a strong sense of personal identity which makes detachment difficult, or if it tips over into rivalrous hatred of other countries, then of course it is a hindrance.
Thank you for pointing that out. I don't know if I would describe myself as a patriotic American, but I am a thankful one.

I think that, in the current climate, America is losing its way, so it's important that we, as Americans, draw on the positive aspects of our history to maintain the founding principles that we claim to hold so dearly.
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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Kim OHara » Sat May 13, 2017 2:05 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Kim OHara wrote:
Sam Vara wrote:... In general terms, I think appreciation of one's country is an extremely positive thing. If patriotism becomes a strong sense of personal identity which makes detachment difficult, or if it tips over into rivalrous hatred of other countries, then of course it is a hindrance. ...
Agreed.

Australia and the US have strong historical similarities - both young countries built by Europeans who violently displaced indigenous peoples, both ruled as European (especially British) colonies for their first years, both immeasurably enriched in the last 100 years by waves of migrants from one country after another, both now slamming shut the doors on migrants and refugees (we even have our own Guantanamo :shock:
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I tend to see both Australia and America in more positive terms. Let's encourage people to see the good in others.
:embarassed:
Fair enough - that was a bit negative, wasn't it? - but I do have trouble seeing much good in countries as such, since countries are not really real. They are abstractions, and most of the purposes the abstraction is used for are divisive.
:thinking:
Maybe that's why the migrant/refugee stuff came to my mind so quickly: you're an American or an Aussie if you're inside the (imaginary) boundary.
:thinking:
And the notion of countries and nationalities is an identity-making and (too often) identity-clinging one: I am [insert nationality], I am [insert gender], I am [insert age group], I am [insert occupation], I am [inser political affiliation] ... :toilet:
Isn't identity something to be let go of?
/rant
After all that ... I find it far easier to like Americans and Australians than to like America or Australia.

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Re: I am thankful to be an American

Post by Santi253 » Sat May 13, 2017 2:11 am

Kim OHara wrote: Maybe that's why the migrant/refugee stuff came to my mind so quickly: you're an American or an Aussie if you're inside the (imaginary) boundary.
It is worth looking at how America has been such a beacon of hope for the world's immigrants. It's also worth noting that Trump's recent Muslim ban was struck down by the court, citing the equal protection clause in the Constitution and the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965.

It's perhaps more important now than ever before that we emphasize the positive aspects of the United States, so that they won't be trampled forever.
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Re: I am thankful to be an American

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America the Buddhaful.

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