The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:52 am

padmini wrote: I feel compassion and sorrow for all victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people.
Wait till they rise to power.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Mr Man » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:59 am

binocular wrote:
padmini wrote: I feel compassion and sorrow for all victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people.
Wait till they rise to power.
Wait till who rise to power?

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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:05 pm

Mr Man wrote:Wait till who rise to power?
The "victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people."
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Mr Man » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:09 pm

binocular wrote:
Mr Man wrote:Wait till who rise to power?
The "victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people."
Are the victims going to rise to power? What is do you think they are going to do once they have risen to power?

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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:13 pm

Mr Man wrote:Are the victims going to rise to power?
Yes, likely.
What is do you think they are going to do once they have risen to power?
The same things that those do who are currently in positions of power.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Mr Man » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:25 pm

binocular wrote:
Mr Man wrote:Are the victims going to rise to power?
Yes, likely.
What is do you think they are going to do once they have risen to power?
The same things that those do who are currently in positions of power.
We are talking about Myanmar. You think the Rohingya are going to rise to power in Myanmar?

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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:51 pm

padmini wrote: I feel compassion and sorrow for all victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people.
Mr Man wrote:We are talking about Myanmar. You think the Rohingya are going to rise to power in Myanmar?
They or their fellow religionists already did, apparently, because in Myanmar, there are Muslims who are killing Buddhists.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Mr Man » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:29 pm

binocular wrote:
Mr Man wrote:We are talking about Myanmar. You think the Rohingya are going to rise to power in Myanmar?
They or their fellow religionists already did, apparently, because in Myanmar, there are Muslims who are killing Buddhists.


Hmm. First you said
binocular wrote: Wait till they rise to power.
Then
binocular wrote: They or their fellow religionists already did, apparently....
Seems like your in a bit of a muddle binocular. What is the point you were trying to make?

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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:55 pm

Mr Man wrote:Seems like your in a bit of a muddle binocular.
Not all of them have already risen to power.
What is the point you were trying to make?
How can there be "innocent victims" when there is kamma??


There is a politically correct discourse about victims. And it's a discourse that completely ignores kamma.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Bundokji » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:20 pm

padmini wrote: I had read all this before posting at the beginning of this thread, I know and condemn what the Rohingya Salvation Army has done as much as I condemn the Burmese military.
I always take sides with the innocent, who are dragged into a conflict they did not want (and probably don't understand in the case of children).

I don't care who started first and who killed who, I feel compassion and sorrow for all victims of this senseless conflict -- most of which as usual seem to be common, innocent people.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by clw_uk » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Meggo wrote:I don't see any misunderstanding. You have a friend who likes fascist philosophy you found worthy of posting. You don't like to be criticized for that and call that poisonous.

I saw nothing indicating Fascism in that post. But these days Fascism merely means "something a liberal doesn't like."

The post had a nationalist tone, but that in of itself doesn't equal Fascism (and nationalism isn't necessarily a bad thing). As for the rest, it was arguing that there has been violence on the Muslim side. Perfectly reasonable for the other side to air their POV.

Anyway, :focus:
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by chownah » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:08 am

Without a doubt there are rohingya who are/were illegal immigrants to myanmar and were claiming citizenship status......and without a doubt there are/were rohingya whose ancestors migrated to the region now called myanmar long enough ago so that any reasonable gov't would recongnize their citizenship status. The problem is that the gov'ts of myanmar and burma before it refused to document them which is a sly way for the gov't to be able to kick them around like a political football.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by binocular » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:12 am

chownah wrote:Without a doubt there are rohingya who are/were illegal immigrants to myanmar and were claiming citizenship status......and without a doubt there are/were rohingya whose ancestors migrated to the region now called myanmar long enough ago so that any reasonable gov't would recongnize their citizenship status.

The problem is that the gov'ts of myanmar and burma before it refused to document them which is a sly way for the gov't to be able to kick them around like a political football.
This sort of thing happens with minorities all over the world, it's nothing new or special. The only difference is that sometimes, in some areas, it is more bloody than in others.
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Re: The 'silent crisis' of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:57 am

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