POTUS 2020, part 1

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POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by DNS » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:33 pm

I know it's very early, but anyone want to make any predictions for who might run for POTUS in 2020? :tongue:

Hillary will be 73 y.o.
Tim Kaine will be 62 y.o.
Bernie will be 79 y.o.
Al Gore will be 72 y.o.
Elizabeth Warren will be 71 y.o.

Or someone else?

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by Dhammanando » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:24 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Or someone else?
Trey Gowdy as the GOP candidate — not a prediction, just a hope.



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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SarathW » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:52 am

Does it really matter?
It appears that there is an underline mistrust of politicians in America.
The way I understand only 54% of people voted in a presidential election.
If this is the case there is an opportunity for a complete new comer to emerge from the dust.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_tur ... _elections


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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by ihrjordan » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:13 am

Wouldn't Hillary effectively be barred from running in the general election again considering that she failed to win the presidency?

Here's hoping other TV stars throw their name in the ring.
Stephen Colbert 2020.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by Will » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:51 am

David N. Snyder wrote:I know it's very early, but anyone want to make any predictions for who might run for POTUS in 2020? :tongue:

Hillary will be 73 y.o.
Tim Kaine will be 62 y.o.
Bernie will be 79 y.o.
Al Gore will be 72 y.o.
Elizabeth Warren will be 71 y.o.

Or someone else?

Did you forget Trump running for a 2nd term - or just want to?
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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SDC » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:54 am

This video is third rate nonsense. If people are curious about who these powerful people are, I encourage them to do their own thorough research from a wide array of resources. There is a lot to see, and if taken with a grain of salt it is very easy to see what adds up and what doesn't.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SDC » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:55 am

Will wrote:Did you forget Trump running for a 2nd term - or just want to?
It seems David only listed the democrats who would oppose him for his second term.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SDC » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:55 am

ihrjordan wrote:Wouldn't Hillary effectively be barred from running in the general election again considering that she failed to win the presidency?

Here's hoping other TV stars throw their name in the ring.
Stephen Colbert 2020.
She can run again but won't.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by DNS » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:25 am

Will wrote: Did you forget Trump running for a 2nd term - or just want to?
I figured that was a given. Also there is a tradition that fellow party members do not challenge the sitting president for the nomination. That tradition rarely gets broken; the last I can remember that happening was in 1980 when Ted Kennedy ran against Carter for the nomination (and lost).

So I figured on the GOP side it would be Trump with the nomination, unopposed.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by DNS » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:29 am

SDC wrote:
ihrjordan wrote:Wouldn't Hillary effectively be barred from running in the general election again considering that she failed to win the presidency?

Here's hoping other TV stars throw their name in the ring.
Stephen Colbert 2020.
She can run again but won't.
William Jennings Bryan was the Dem nominee 3 times and lost all 3 times. Adlai Stevenson was the Dem nominee 2 times and lost both times (to IKE). I am sure there are several others who ran multiple times as well.

Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960 and came back to win in 1968 and 1972. So HRC could run again, but age could be an issue and also motivation as I am sure she was very disappointed with this outcome, especially after the expectation was so much in her favor due to the poor polling figures.

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by DNS » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:44 am

If the American people want to continue with the businessman, outsider model, here's another possibility:

Mark Cuban

He supported and voted for Obama (2008, 2012) and Hillary (2016) so he could run as a Dem. He also dislikes Trump and they have had a running feud for some time now.

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Post by shaunc » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:45 am

Michelle Obama could be a dark horse in with a chance.

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Post by DNS » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:55 am

Mark Zuckerberg will be 36 y.o. for the next election, just over the minimum age requirement (35). :tongue:

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:47 am

Greetings,

I nominate David N. Snyder.

Not a traditional Democrat, but reflective of the direction I think they ought to go... i.e. small government, non-authoritarian, centralist, free speech, equal balance of head and heart.

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Paul. :)
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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SarathW » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:21 am

I nominate David N. Snyder.
I second it!
:D
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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by DNS » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:23 am

SarathW wrote:
I nominate David N. Snyder.
I second it!
:D
Thanks, but not a chance. My opponent(s) would comb through all my obscure posts at DWT, DWM, and DP. See for example this one:

http://dharmapaths.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... t=20#p1999

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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by Aloka » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:17 am

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shaunc wrote: Michelle Obama could be a dark horse in with a chance.

Just a brief comment to say that I don't live in the USA and I'm not interested in arguing about politics here - but I've listened to some of her speeches and Michelle Obama seems like an ideal candidate to me. Maybe having a female president could even be the new direction America will need in 2020.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37929982




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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by poto » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:27 am

David N. Snyder wrote:If the American people want to continue with the businessman, outsider model, here's another possibility:

Mark Cuban

He supported and voted for Obama (2008, 2012) and Hillary (2016) so he could run as a Dem. He also dislikes Trump and they have had a running feud for some time now.
Mark Cuban is a former pornographer. He got his start with the "Girls Gone Wild" videos where he basically took advantage of young drunk college girls on spring break. There is a lot of dirt on him and some of it is very dark stuff. He's a very bad guy and things like him buying a sports team and his later business ventures could be seen as an attempt to buy legitimacy with dirty money. All his scandals being dragged out in public would preclude him from running for public office, at least on a national level.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Tulsi Gabbard yet. She's one of the few that have come out looking good from the DNC leaks.
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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by SarathW » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:58 am

All his scandals being dragged out in public would preclude him from running for public office, at least on a national level.
Well that is what we all thought about Trump.
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Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Post by poto » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:12 am

SarathW wrote:
All his scandals being dragged out in public would preclude him from running for public office, at least on a national level.
Well that is what we all thought about Trump.
Be honest here, most of Trump's scandals were just from things he said. Rude comments do not equate to sex work and exploiting young girls for profit.
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