Hi ModusModus.Ponens wrote:Why would you think that's a good question? You must be completely mistaken about who you're talking with. So, once again, let me explain what should be obvious.Mr Man wrote: Hi Modus
So you are against the imprisonment of Anjem Choudary?
If KKK members incite murder, or are involved in terrorist or criminal activities, those members that are doing it should be arrested, as the law demands. Because of these very laws Anjem Choudary should have been arrested years ago. This is quite different from people expressing prejudiced and racist opinions. These should be met with factual arguments debunking their beliefs and with ridicule of their stupid beliefs. This is the best way of debunking prejudice because in the long run it's a lot more effective than censorship or prison.
Perhaps it is worth noting that Choudary wasn't actually convicted for inciting murder or violence but for encouraging support of a proscribed organisation (a good thing in my opinion).
This is from a an article in a UK paper
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 94426.htmlSure enough, the news of his conviction will reignite debate in some quarters over the limits of legitimate speech in this country. Freedom of expression is, of course, protected by law. And when the media came under fire for putting Choudary in front of the camera in 2013, their defence was always that it was important to hear extremist views in order that they can be challenged and deconstructed. There is surely a degree of truth in that. If we condemn Choudary for supposedly removing the ability of young Muslims to think for themselves, how should we react when his supporters contend that by silencing him we are fundamentally hypocritical?
And here is another
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... 9v-Rnl4epoOne of the prosecution’s claims was that Choudary ‘radicalised’ people. His lectures apparently turned impressionable young Muslim men into killers. One of the killers of Lee Rigby was a fan of his nutty talks. Others who listened to him later went to Syria to join ISIS. But unless we are going to give up entirely on the idea of free will, then we must argue that Choudary is no more responsible for these individuals’ behaviour than the right-wing, anti-mass migration newspaper columnists cited by Anders Breivik are for his atrocity, or the authors of the Bible are for every mad killing carried out by fans of that Good Book.
Please take note of the arguments used above.
Personally I have no time for Islamic hate preachers and no time for non-Islamic hate preachers.