Modus.Ponens wrote:I'm starting to think that your multiple posts of meta discussion and hostile negativity have no other purpose than to try to make me lose my cool so you can close the topic. Perhaps even on grounds of meta discussion.
As a moderator, Tilt is within his rights to seek clarification from you. In the past, some of the socio-political threads have not been positive.
Modus.Ponens wrote:I get that you don't like the content. But I have given appropriate justification for the legitimacy and importance of this topic, namely that it is of paramount importance to the human race's survival that we get this question right. It is thus of paramount importance to the dhamma too.
I don't think it will be a surprise to you that some people will disagree with you on this point, myself included.
Modus.Ponens wrote:Diversity of opinion is essential to democracy, as long as these opinions are not incitements to violence. And these are far from incitetments to violence. They are actualy the opposite of that. It's ok that you or Aloka don't want to hear them. I don't read many of the topics either. You can choose not to read this topic too. But some others have taken something of value from it.
Incitement to violence shouldn't be the minimum standard on DW. Instead, it should be mutual respect.
When we formed DW, the last thing we wanted was an enclave of theravadins taking pot shots at E-sangha, Mahayanists or some hostile 'other'. Anyone (regardless of background or spiritual affiliation) could join DW so long as they had a genuine interest in the Theravāda and would abide by the twin principles of friendliness and mutual respect, and adhere to the community guidelines as expressed in the TOS.
Our concerns when it comes to socio-political threads whether it be decrying 'safe spaces', gender issues or Islam is the impact it has on disenfranchising existing members and making DW a less than welcoming environment from members within the broader community. And that is why I personally have concerns with these threads. I know that they directly impact on the diversity of our membership and reduce the number of alternative voices when women, people of colour, those with connections with Islam no longer find this place a welcoming environment.
In the past socio-political threads have not been venues for calm and respectful debate and it's been disappointing that there was a lack of acknowledgement of differing points of view and appreciation of nuance was also sadly lacking.
Modus.Ponens wrote:Have you seen the interview?
I watched about 20m of the video last night after a long trip home and didn't get to finish it. Cohen seems to point the finger at 'the left' and Islam. I didn't think it was instructive or revolutionary and I didn't find it interesting. It seems typical of the spate of commentators and writers such as Harris, Hitchens, Denning, et al, who are informed by neoliberalism.
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