Political Compass

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Which quadrant are your results in?

Authoritarian Left
0
No votes
Libertarian Left
20
77%
Authoritarian Right
1
4%
Libertarian Right
5
19%
 
Total votes: 26

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Re: Political Compass

Post by PuerAzaelis » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:03 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm
PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:56 pm
Just an observation lol. You just lost me, pal. Sigh, yea well everyone is their own authority, in the final analysis. I guess when we all meet in the big town park in the sky with our favorite baseball bats wrapped in duct tape and razor wire we can ask the DJ to play Midnight Oil. Just ignore me I’m just some wog hanging out in the corner.
At least I was suggesting to add something to substance to the discussion. I am also a 'wog'.
Fine. I apologize.
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Re: Why are far-right political views so predominant on DW?

Post by DooDoot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:13 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:30 pm
Here in Australia I've actually voted Greens since 2000, and even handed out how to vote cards for the last 2 federal, and 1 state election but I won't be doing either again soon, because under their current leadership, the Greens become trapped in the thought-world of identity politics.
Same. I no longer vote for the Greens but generally I have no-one to vote for. It has become a political wilderness (although I was very pleased a minor party I voted for two elections ago blocked the Education Deregulation).
I find this somewhat ironic, because former Greens leader Bob Brown himself was gay, but he never made a big issue out of it.
Nice man. I spoke to him once for a while.
Yet now, everything the Greens come up with is modelled on third-wave feminism, critical theory, open borders globalism, and cultural Marxism... and invariably results in them calling their opponents racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobia, misogynist, xenophobic, Islamophobic etc.
Indeed. I cannot recall the issue; it was probably economic; but I dropped the Greens about 8 years ago.
Similarly, when I voted that way, it was primarily on economic grounds, specifically in terms of appropriate and progressive taxation, and using that funding for the basic building blocks of a functional society - things like schools and tertiary education, the health sector (both physical and mental), aged care, public transport infrastructure, and good public planning.
Sure. This is something that appears very alien to Americans as an intrinsic part of their society. I have rarely heard an American give a balanced view of economics, including American political commentators I like. In Australia, these things have been proven to work well & be relatively efficient.
The Greens of old were more libertarian-left (remember their old policies to decriminalize certain drugs?), but have now swung to the authoritarian-left quadrant as they clutch to identity politics, clearly influenced by those in the U.S. who have taken the lead in fostering that ideological cancer.
Yep.
Back locally, I see the Greens vote is stagnating, and potentially even declining, and I'm pleased about this, but believe they're too pig-headed and stubborn to listen to reasons why their fixation on identity politics is doing them more harm than good. In the current climate, where even the major parties pander to Cultural Marxism, my party of choice would be the Liberal Democrats, followed by Australian Conservatives... beyond that, I'd just be grudgingly putting numbers in boxes.
Thanks Paul. I'll watch the video & check out the above parties (which I have never heard of). Gotta to start work now.

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Re: Political Compass

Post by DooDoot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:14 pm

PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:03 pm
Fine. I apologize.
No problem. No issue. :heart:

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Re: Political Compass

Post by DNS » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:18 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm
I am also a 'wog'.
Is that Australian slang for person of color? If you don't mind me asking, what is your ethnic background?

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Re: Political Compass

Post by PuerAzaelis » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:42 pm

Seriously I apologize that was not appropriate. PS: some of my friends are Jewish, I am a little sensitive.
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Re: Political Compass

Post by DooDoot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:48 pm

PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:42 pm
Seriously I apologize that was not appropriate. PS: some of my friends are Jewish, I am a little sensitive.
Respectfully, this is not relevant to an informed discussion. I also have Jewish friends. The point I previously made, which you objected to, is the 'left-wing-victim-narrative' used by blacks, gays, women & other so-called 'minorities', that appears to characterize US politics, is primarily of Jewish origins & mimics the historical Jewish victim narrative; just as the sexual liberalism of the entertainment industry largely of Jewish origins. I do acknowledge there obviously were non-Jewish people, such as legislators, supporting this liberalism. Similarly, it appears quite obvious US foreign policy often has an Israeli or Zionist narrative; & the US mass-media that propagates this narrative is largely Zionist in its leanings. Therefore, if you believe what I have posted here is factually wrong, you are welcome to provide evidence & information to educate me that my views are wrong or inaccurate. However, to claim you have Jewish friends is not a response because it is more name-calling of 'anitsemiticism', as described (but not mentioned) this video.


DNS wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:18 pm
DooDoot wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm
I am also a 'wog'.
Is that Australian slang for person of color? If you don't mind me asking, what is your ethnic background?
A wog is probably similar to US 'wop'; a person of darker skinned Mediterranean origins.
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Re: Political Compass

Post by PuerAzaelis » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:53 pm

Yea I get it. I just have knee-jerk reactions. I think I should avoid political discussions.
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Re: Political Compass

Post by DooDoot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:57 pm

PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:53 pm
Yea I get it. I just have knee-jerk reactions. I think I should avoid political discussions.
That's up to you. But I merely posted my impression that both left-wing & right-wing US politics have many Jewish narratives. When I use the word "Jewish", I am referring to a sub-culture & ideology (rather than a racial group). I did not say this about the politics of other Western nations. I was clear in my original post that these narratives are historically absent from Australia politics, for example. In Australia, the word "liberal" means "conservative" or "right wing" because "liberals" were historically primarily concerned with free-trade & free-economics, including labour relations. "Liberal" in Australia does not mean to be sexually liberal or to support LGBT, etc.

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Re: Political Compass

Post by Dhammanando » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:46 am

Authoritarian right, but only just, and looking pretty moderate for a UKIP voter.

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Re: Political Compass

Post by binocular » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:00 pm

Dhammanando wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:46 am
Authoritarian right, but only just, and looking pretty moderate for a UKIP voter.
Monks (can) vote?

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Re: Political Compass

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:16 pm

binocular wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:00 pm
Monks (can) vote?
In the UK monks are not prohibited from voting, and those living abroad can have a postal or proxy vote.

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Re: Political Compass

Post by Disciple » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:10 pm

Here's mine

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Re: Political Compass

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:29 pm

Greetings,

Mine's about where I thought it would be nowadays...
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... how and why it's shifted over the years has been explained previously here.

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Re: Political Compass

Post by Cittasanto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:34 am

Mine is also about the same. I was more leftist and less libertarian
left moderate social libertarian now and was left social moderate before.
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Re: Political Compass

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