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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Mkoll » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:26 pm

Hah, I should have put "like" in quotes "like" that. :tongue:
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:49 am

Why The U.S.-China CO2 Deal Is An Energy, Climate, And Political Gamechanger
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/1 ... mechanger/
Bottom Line: The U.S.-China deal greatly increases the chance of a global agreement in Paris next December that shifts the world close to an emissions path that can stabilize CO2 levels and keep total warming as close to 2°C (3.6°F) as possible. It ensures that carbon-free energy will be the dominant new energy source in the coming decades. Climate activists certainly share in this achievement, but will need continued vigilance. The anti-science forces in this country have already lined up against it, and the road to actual stabilization at non-dangerous CO2 levels is a very long one.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by chownah » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:33 pm

Australians bury heads in sand to mock government climate stance
http://news.yahoo.com/australians-bury- ... 20653.html
chownahahahahha

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:24 pm

chownah wrote:Australians bury heads in sand to mock government climate stance
http://news.yahoo.com/australians-bury- ... 20653.html
chownahahahahha
Gee, you were quick to spot this!
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I knew it was coming, partly because the instigator lives in my part of the country and organised a similar event a few months ago.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by cooran » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:44 pm

Temperature out at Dhammagiri Forest Hermitage tomorrow is predicted by the Bureau of Meteorology to be 104.4F or 43C.

With the G20 World Leaders in Brisbane, no wonder the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott (Chief Climate Change Denier) has not allowed Climate Change to be on the Agenda.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:56 pm

cooran wrote:Temperature out at Dhammagiri Forest Hermitage tomorrow is predicted by the Bureau of Meteorology to be 104.4F or 43C.

With the G20 World Leaders in Brisbane, no wonder the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott (Chief Climate Change Denier) has not allowed Climate Change to be on the Agenda.
Ouch!
I think the climate itself is insisting it needs to be on the agenda.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:01 am

The US - China emissions deal has had plenty of coverage - as it deserved - but here is a summary of what it is and isn't, will and won't do, from someone who has been deeply engaged in the climate change debate for years, Bill McKibben of 350.org, http://350.org/
It's short and it's well worth reading.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mcki ... 45026.html

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Mkoll » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:51 am

Kim OHara wrote:
cooran wrote:Temperature out at Dhammagiri Forest Hermitage tomorrow is predicted by the Bureau of Meteorology to be 104.4F or 43C.

With the G20 World Leaders in Brisbane, no wonder the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott (Chief Climate Change Denier) has not allowed Climate Change to be on the Agenda.
Ouch!
I think the climate itself is insisting it needs to be on the agenda.

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U.S., EU override Australia to put climate change on G20 agenda

Tony Abbot...lol.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Mkoll » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:13 am

Pretty cool video: NASA | A Year in the Life of Earth's CO2.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:04 am

Mkoll wrote:Pretty cool video: NASA | A Year in the Life of Earth's CO2.

Awesome!
The improvements in the technology behind observations and visualisations have been staggering. That video is a good illustration of how far we've come - so long as we can mentally compare it with state-of-the-art efforts in (say) the 1950s when Keeling's Mauna Loa observations first showed us we had a problem.
I wonder if there's anything on the web we could look at for comparison?

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:12 am

Yes, I liked that.
As for Abbott, the shocking thing is that he still doesn't get it - he thinks he's doing fine and all the important people love and admire him. Dunning-Kruger http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect, anyone?

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:40 am

Hi, folks. The Northern-hemisphere is definitely experiencing some global cooling! :reading: :thinking: Will be testing my snow blower tomorrow morning. Just changed the oil on my leaf sucker two days ago and changed the air filter. Record breaking snowfall across the north:

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http://www.wgrz.com/

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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/wint ... oCZbfw_wcB

So, in the winter plants go into hibernation, and the CO2 levels rise. What's odd about that? Help me out, please?

Seems to me what we need to do is plant more fir trees. Perhaps we could decorate them with lights and glass bulbs to make things look cheery and bright!

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During the winter each month on the full moon we could gather around the base of these trees and sing Puja Carols
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:24 am

Hi, Ron,
All joking aside ...
Ron-The-Elder wrote:Hi, folks. The Northern-hemisphere is definitely experiencing some global cooling! :reading: :thinking: Will be testing my snow blower tomorrow morning. Just changed the oil on my leaf sucker two days ago and changed the air filter. Record breaking snowfall across the north ...
Impressive photo, and I'm glad I live here (35C) and not there ( 35F?) but as I'm sure you know, that's local weather, not global climate.
Ron-The-Elder wrote: Image
That has to be one of the dumbest graphs I've ever seen! :toilet:
Where in cyberspace did you get it?
Does it have anything to do with this https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 406AA1ne91 http://www.desmogblog.com/steven-goddard guy?
Ron-The-Elder wrote:So, in the winter plants go into hibernation, and the CO2 levels rise. What's odd about that? Help me out, please?
wikipedia wrote:The Keeling Curve shows a cyclic variation of about 5 ppmv in each year corresponding to the seasonal change in uptake of CO2 by the world's land vegetation. Most of this vegetation is in the Northern hemisphere, since this is where most of the land is located. From a maximum in May, the level decreases during the northern spring and summer as new plant growth takes carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere through photosynthesis. After reaching a minimum in October, the level rises again in the northern fall and winter as plants and leaves die off and decay, releasing the gas back into the atmosphere.[13]
More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeling_Curve (P.S. you can see it in the video Mkoll posted a few days ago - http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 60#p318117)

Hope that helps with the mental side of things. I can't help you with the physical side, but I wish you good luck with it.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:33 pm

Hi, Kim. Thanks for your local weather condolences relating to the polar vortex experience, as well as your kind, and expert response.

I was encouraged today by a pHD Climatologist (don't remember her name) being invited onto CNBC, one of our local business news channels. Apparently she is going to be showing up periodically explaining
and commenting on GW and CC issues as they affect investors and businesses. Now that the stock market guys and gurus are paying attention, and having open forum discussions perhaps the rest of the corporate community will as well: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101514254

While all of it is not scientific, but more opinion, at least they are talking to each other and sharing relevant information.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:48 am

Hi gang.

We were hoping to celebrate Global Warming for Thanksgiving 2014 with a nice warm spell, perhaps visiting the local beaches here in New Hampshire , USA, but instead we woke to find 10 to 18 inches of very wet snow, bent over and broken trees, down power lines for two days plus, and that nice four foot high wall left by the city plows at the end of the driveway. After changing my clothes three times due to cold soaking wetness due to the wet snow, combined with sweat from shoveling the dense white stuff for nine hours, because snow-blower was constantly clogging, shaking tree limbs to try to save them, raking roofs, then laying out and connecting replacement electric lines, starting the generator for all of the essential services (refrigerator, hot water, lighting, microwave, and phone battery chargers) it struck me that it was Thanksgiving Day, a big holiday here in The US and instead I should be making a list of all those people, places, and things for which we are truly thankful. At the top of my list was all of you at Dhamma Wheel, who patiently read my inane rants, and set me straight on the difference between delusion and dhamma, such as that which differs between weather variations and climate change.

Our fresh turkey purchased for the holiday just a few days ago (apologies to vegans) is sitting (uncooked) and now frozen on top of our air conditioner compressor in the back yard in the sub-zero weather, because it was too big to fit into the microwave oven :tongue: Instead, we had leftovers (all veggies) and thus remained free of tryptophan induced comas.

I realize we are bringing this news a day late, but our internet provider's systems were down a day longer than ours and just came back early this morning (Post Thanksgiving). :hug:
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-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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