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Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:23 am

Hi, everyone. I know The Global Warming thread was closed, but recent data is showing that we in fact may be entering a period of Global Cooling, much like what has been occurring periodically over The Earth's history.

To the moderator who locked this thread: Data streams will always continue regarding this topic. Perhaps we acted too soon. :coffee:


http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/envi ... al-cooling

http://www.newsmax.com/Rahn/Global-Warm ... /id/497516
"Satellite data from NASA covering 2000 through 2011 cast doubt on current computer models predicting global warming, according to a new study. The data shows that much less heat is retained by carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere than is assumed in current models. 'There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans,' said Dr. Roy Spencer, a co-author of the study and research scientist at the University of Alabama."
Note: the press release about the study is somewhat less over the top.
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2 ... well-2011/
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:38 am

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:51 am

Ron-The-Elder wrote:Global Cooling or Global Warming, Which Is It?:
Global Warming. No argument, no possibility of a mistake.
I will get back soon with evidence ... no time now.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by tiltbillings » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:52 am

{{{groan}}}
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by purple planet » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:55 am

Global warming had strengthened the "green movement" a lot - this movement has lots of bad sides (cant remember now but they exist - dont ask me what are they - if i would remember i would have written it ) but much much more good sides -

so if there needs to be a lie for global warming for people to care more about the environment animal rights ect then its great

once if a factory was polluting and a few poor people who lived next to it were suffering because of it no one would care but now thanks to the whole "global warming" then people do care a little more -

One claim is that cows contribute to global warming = to stop golbal warming you need to lower meat consumption= good - so thats one reason to "support" the global warming theory

so i pretend its real until proven otherwise

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Dan74 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:57 am

Dr Roy Spencer whom you quoted is a creationist who has said that "Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting." So if you are looking for an objective scientific appraisal of the situation, you are not going to find it from him.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by purple planet » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:09 am

{{{groan}}}
lol now i get this reply :rofl: lol

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by plwk » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:11 am

They must have used Celcius... :mrgreen:

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:38 am

Okay, Ron,
You link to five sites. None of them appear to have any scientific credentials whatever. The first two are blatantly political, the third is by a serial climate misinformer (Pielke http://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptic ... -pie-chart is just about all you need to know about the state of climate science. However, if you want more, better and later science, here it is:
The Australian Climate Council http://www.climatecouncil.org.au/ summarised the latest IPCC report thus:
What actually are the key messages of the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report?
There is stronger evidence that the Earth’s climate is warming – rising air and ocean temperature, loss of mass from glaciers and ice sheets, and rising sea level.
Scientists are more certain than ever that most of the warming since 1950 has been caused by human activities, primarily the emission of carbon dioxide from fossil fuel combustion.
A warming climate is influencing the frequency and severity of many extreme weather events and is changing rainfall patterns, creating risks for human well-being, the economy and the environment.
Stabilising the climate system will require substantial and sustained reductions of carbon dioxide emissions, and those of other greenhouse gases.

RealClimate is a bit more technical: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... te-report/
If you prefer video, Climate State presents a crisp summary here - http://climatestate.com/2013/10/03/ipcc ... ighlights/

If you're beginning to wonder where the dissenting (aka denialist) voices are coming from, start here
Dollars for Deniers: Big Oil Funds Climate Science Denialism (Daily Kos)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/2 ... Denialism/
or here
Rupert Murdoch’s Newspapers Mislead Public On Climate Change and Environment (DeSmog Blog)
http://www.desmogblog.com/rupert-murdoc ... nvironment

:reading:
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

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Global Warming: Recent Data

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:23 am
Hi, everyone. I know The Global Warming thread was closed, but recent data is showing that we in fact may be entering a period of Global Cooling, much like what has been occurring periodically over The Earth's history.

To the moderator who locked this thread: Data streams will always continue regarding this topic. Perhaps we acted too soon. :coffee:


http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/envi ... al-cooling

http://www.newsmax.com/Rahn/Global-Warm ... /id/497516

"Satellite data from NASA covering 2000 through 2011 cast doubt on current computer models predicting global warming, according to a new study. The data shows that much less heat is retained by carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere than is assumed in current models. 'There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans,' said Dr. Roy Spencer, a co-author of the study and research scientist at the University of Alabama."
Note: the press release about the study is somewhat less over the top.



http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2 ... well-2011/


Its nice to see a thread about respect for the truth. Ill add my bit.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:58 am

We are entering a period of global cooling in the northern Hemisphere, its called winter, however disturbingly in the southern hemisphere things are getting much hotter. Maybe that's what explains the OP's confusion on the topic!!!
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by daverupa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:31 pm

Ron-The-Elder wrote:Data streams will always continue regarding this topic.
There's data streams, and there's political blowhards feeding lines to people.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by nibbuti » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:17 pm

Hi.

Environmental friendly thinking is a loaded topic, but so is socialism etc. Both look good at some point in history.

But never underestimate the potential for 'good ideas' to turn into another facade for power & corruption, whenever they become mainstreamed.

For example, there's a trend here for selling the 'right to pollute' to bigger and more powerful companies. Whilst the smaller companies can't afford it and shut down, the big ones go on as before, even more powerful. And the politicians are happy to have another argument for raising taxes.

Thus, the big and powerful will love 'environmentalism' (and easily turn it upside down via popular media campaigns), so long as it is profitable business nurtured by greed, rather than an honest way of simple, peaceful life.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Ron-The-Elder » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:06 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:We are entering a period of global cooling in the northern Hemisphere, its called winter, however disturbingly in the southern hemisphere things are getting much hotter. Maybe that's what explains the OP's confusion on the topic!!!
Yep! I live in The Northern Hemisphere! That explains it. :tongue:

:coffee: So, should we listen only to the Australian Climatologists or not? :popcorn:

Apologies for my lame posts from Energy Companies. What could energy producers possibly know about heat energy gain and loss? :tongue:

Also, please avoid posting Corporate Opinions from companies, which profit from this issue and present only data from qualified scientific resources like NASA, The National Geological Society, The UN, and The World Homeopathic Society. :reading:

In other words, don't do as I have done. Do what I say! :coffee:

And then, moderator, please lock this thread. :thinking: I now see the error of my ways. :toilet:
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But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by purple planet » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:46 pm

Just want to make clear i think its great to hear other opinions and reaching the truth - and i do think that lots of people who talk about global warming have something to gain from it - some not only gain from it but their entire career is based on it !

Global Cooling or Global Warming, Which Is It?


I will keep reading and learn about this and try to understand more about this subject just saying that as far as my public opinion i think its best to support the idea that there is global warming - (daverupas great image sums my opinion)

i know that its :offtopic: and not a direct answer to your question just wanted to add my opinion on the subject - its always great to hear all sides of the story so this are interesting links

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