What is my ancestry? who cares.

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Apperantly, someone is caring about your ancestry!!

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If you are thinking about taking one of these DNA tests, here's a word of warning -
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https://thinkprogress.org/ancestry-com- ... feed02b9e/

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Who cares? I care. I care about my ancestors. By examining the archives I can follow my ancestors several hundred years back. I can se who they were, their names, where they lived, often also how they lived. A few of them were wealthy, but most of them were poor people, toiling from day to day to secure a living for themselves and their families. Each one of my ancestors lived a life with their own joys and sorrows. Each one of them were a necessary cause for my own life here and now. Therefore I study my ancestry with love and deep respect for those who went before me. As for DNA ancestry this becomes more distant and unpersonal. But it still is interesting to see what roads my far ancestors walked back through the millenia.
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Who cares? I care.
"This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?' Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the immediate present: 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where is it bound?'

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SarathW wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:24 am
Who cares? I care.
"This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?' Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the immediate present: 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where is it bound?'

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Completely wrong. I do not pose any of those questions. Do you? Read my post again, and do not assign to me words that were not mine. But by all means - feel free to ignore your parents, your grandparents and their ancestors if that is how you feel. I care, however.
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Read my post again, and do not assign to me words that were not mine.
Sorry I did not intend to object you.
I just want to have a discussion.
We already know who our parents and brothers etc.
Knowing what was my ten generation is a useless piece of information for me.
I agree that for many people it is very important.
Generally, when you become a Buddhist monk you completely disconnect from your ancestors.
I know this is not applicable to lay people.
But we can learn something from that.
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SarathW wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 am Generally, when you become a Buddhist monk you completely disconnect from your ancestors.
I know this is not applicable to lay people.
But we can learn something from that.
Hi, Sarath,
If you mean that we should go some way to copying what monks are required to do, I think your logic is faulty. The same logic leads to, e.g. When we join the army we are allowed to kill people. I know this is not applicable to civilians. But we can learn something from that and kill people too.

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But we can learn something from that and kill people too.
I think civilians learn to kill from the behavior of army too.
If people in army practice non-violence the civilians might learn from that too.
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:36 pm I'm 10% coffee.
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