cult of vipassanā?

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cult of vipassanā?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:00 am

has anyone else noticed something like
goenka or 10-day course harassment
it seems separate from the buddha's teachings
Off top of head just the emphasis on vipassana esp. over samatha
And the belief that their courses are necessary whereas sutta are not
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Re: cult of vipassanā?

Post by retrofuturist » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:24 pm

Greetings,
And the belief that their courses are necessary whereas sutta are not
I can certainly attest to having seen this belief expressed on many occasions.

Metta,
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Re: cult of vipassanā?

Post by Garrib » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:40 am

I just signed up for a 10 day course in the Spring, but I'm not planning on joining the Vipassana cult, if there is such a thing.

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Re: cult of vipassanā?

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:02 am

Greetings,
Garrib wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:40 am
I just signed up for a 10 day course in the Spring, but I'm not planning on joining the Vipassana cult, if there is such a thing.
Enjoy. There's nothing to be concerned about, particularly if you already have a good grasp of the Buddha's teaching.

Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: cult of vipassanā?

Post by Dhammabodhi » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:52 am

As someone who has experience of practicing in the Goenka tradition- I can say with 100% certainty that it is NOT a cult.

What you perceive as cultish behaviour is a few over-zealous practitioners who haven't understood Goenkaji's message (e.g. it is explicitly warned in courses not to preach others or be forceful in trying to convince other people to attend a 10-day course, as much as possible). So I request you to rather inform yourself of his views by reading his books and listening to his talks directly, and avoid false perceptions.

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Re: cult of vipassanā?

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:51 pm

Dhammabodhi wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:52 am
What you perceive as cultish behaviour is a few over-zealous practitioners who haven't understood Goenkaji's message
q.v. Family Guy on Buddhism

Christopher Titmuss makes some valid points.
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