Letting go

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Letting go

Post by D1W1 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:58 am

Hello all,

I'm not sure if this is considered Vipassana, Samatha, loving kindness or something else.
The short question is, how do we practice letting go in the meditation? Letting go of, greed, hate, fear, etc. Thanks all.

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Re: Letting go

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:56 am

D1W1 wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:58 am
Hello all,

I'm not sure if this is considered Vipassana, Samatha, loving kindness or something else.
The short question is, how do we practice letting go in the meditation? Letting go of, greed, hate, fear, etc. Thanks all.
Here's one method. When you notice greed, or hate, or fear, etc. in your mind, simply be aware that it is there; and then return your attention to the object of your meditation (for example, the breath). Don't dwell on or think about the negative quality, other than acknowledging that it is there. Don't explore the negative quality, allowing your mind to confirm it by grasping at particular details. Or if you do, acknowledge that, and then return to the object of the meditation. Just allow the negative thought or feeling to pass by, without bothering it with your concern. It can take a long time to do this, because it goes against what the mind has been conditioned to do. And sometimes it feels easy and obvious, whereas on other occasions it can appear to be impossible, and then that gives rise to frustration. But persist with it, and see what happens...

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Re: Letting go

Post by budo » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:48 am

When you're in meditation, anything that's not the object of meditation is greed. Let go of it and return to the object of meditation.

Greed means you're trying to have something, trying to take something. Whether it's pleasure from thinking, day dreaming, etc.. when you have no greed, you have no cravings, no aversions, no hatred, no fear, and you have no restlessness.

So anything that you do that takes you away from the object of meditation is greed.

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Re: Letting go

Post by auto » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:36 pm

Greed is passion obsession what is abandoned regards to pleasant feeling.
The pleasure what rises in jhana will let you abandon passion obsession because regards to 1st jhana pleasure, passion doesn't get obsessed.

Dwelling in jhana you can abandon greed because in jhana it is not obsessed.

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Re: Letting go

Post by paul » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:06 pm

The term ‘letting go’, is favoured by those who advocate passive mindfulness and does not convey a true representation of the task. In fact abolishing greed or hate involves all the four right efforts:
1. to prevent the arising of unarisen unwholesome states;
2. to abandon unwholesome states that have already arisen;
3. to arouse wholesome states that have not yet arisen;
4. to maintain and perfect wholesome states already arisen.

Abandoning unwholesome states already arisen involves substituting the opposite, in the case of sensual desire, the meditations on the impermanence of the body as described in the Satipatthana sutta should be employed and made a separate subject of meditation. That strengthens the opposite and when evil, unskillful thoughts arise it is easier through appropriate attention (yoniso manasikara) to divert thinking to the already-established theme of impermanence of the body.

"There is the case where evil, unskillful thoughts — imbued with desire, aversion, or delusion — arise in a monk while he is referring to and attending to a particular theme. He should attend to another theme, apart from that one, connected with what is skillful. When he is attending to this other theme, apart from that one, connected with what is skillful, then those evil, unskillful thoughts — imbued with desire, aversion, or delusion — are abandoned and subside. With their abandoning, he steadies his mind right within, settles it, unifies it, and concentrates it. Just as a skilled carpenter or his apprentice would use a small peg to knock out, drive out, and pull out a large one; in the same way, if evil, unskillful thoughts — imbued with desire, aversion, or delusion — arise in a monk while he is referring to and attending to a particular theme, he should attend to another theme, apart from that one, connected with what is skillful. When he is attending to this other theme, apart from that one, connected with what is skillful, then those evil, unskillful thoughts — imbued with desire, aversion, or delusion — are abandoned and subside. With their abandoning, he steadies his mind right within, settles it, unifies it, and concentrates it.”—-MN 20

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Re: Letting go

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:56 am

D1W1 wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:58 am
The short question is, how do we practice letting go in the meditation? Letting go of, greed, hate, fear, etc. Thanks all.
I'm still not convinced that "letting go" is something you can actively do, it's more like the result of insight.

For example I found it difficult to let go of my craving for ice-cream until I realised it was making me put on weight. :tongue:
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Re: Letting go

Post by Aloka » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:14 pm

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There's a series of talks by Ajahn Amaro,"The Art of Letting Go" which might be worth checking out:

https://www.abhayagiri.org/talks/collec ... jahn-amaro


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