Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

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Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by one_awakening » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:35 am

What is the relationship between Vipassanā practice and the Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta? Are Vipassanā Practices based on the Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta?

The reason I ask is that I find that some Vipassanā Practices don't seem to be what the Buddha taught.
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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by Dinsdale » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:52 am

one_awakening wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:35 am
What is the relationship between Vipassanā practice and the Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta? Are Vipassanā Practices based on the Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta?

The reason I ask is that I find that some Vipassanā Practices don't seem to be what the Buddha taught.
Some insight practices are based on satipatthana, some on the 3 marks ( anicca, dukkha and anatta ).

Could you be more specific about which vipassana practices you are thinking of?
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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by one_awakening » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:54 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:52 am

Could you be more specific about which vipassana practices you are thinking of?
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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by Sam Vara » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:42 am

Goenka himself has quite a lot to say about the relationship between the method he teaches and the Satipatthana Sutta. Many others disagree with him, but you can check it out for yourself.

https://www.amazon.com/Mahasatipatthana ... 0964948400

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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by one_awakening » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:54 am

Joseph Goldstein is apparently a Vipassanā teacher, but his books are based very precisely on what The Buddha taught, going through each line of the The Satipatṭhāna Sutta.
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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by Sam Vara » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:58 am

one_awakening wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:54 am
Joseph Goldstein is apparently a Vipassanā teacher, but his books are based very precisely on what The Buddha taught, going through each line of the The Satipatṭhāna Sutta.
Yes, the sutta itself is clearly subject to a number of different possible applications in terms of one's actual practice.

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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by Dhammabodhi » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:44 pm

FYI, it may interest you that many Goenka centers run Satipaṭṭhāna courses:
Dhamma.org wrote:Satipatthana Sutta Courses have the same timetable and discipline as 10-day courses. The difference is that in the taped evening discourses the Satipatthana Sutta is carefully examined. This is the principal text in which the technique of Vipassana is systematically explained. These courses are open to serious old students who have sat (not including courses served) at least three 10-day courses, have not been practising any other meditation techniques since last 10-day course, have been practising this technique of Vipassana for at least one year, and who are trying to maintain their meditation practice and the five precepts in their daily lives, at the very minimum from the time of applying to the course.
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Re: Vipassanā Practice and Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta

Post by one_awakening » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:32 pm

It's interesting that Thanissaro Bhikkhu says that the Suttas never equate Vipassana with any minfulness technique.
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