Metta and Satipattana

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indianromeo
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Metta and Satipattana

Post by indianromeo » Fri May 12, 2017 5:01 pm

Just wondering how to best integrate metta contemlation with sattipattana. Take the 3rd Foundation which is currently my "jam." When I "know" that my mind is not deluded, for example, would it be appropriate to contemplate "Metta?" That is how I'm approaching it, giving a bit more tenderness to a "wholesome" mind-state. :anjali:

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Re: Metta and Satipattana

Post by JohnK » Fri May 12, 2017 8:29 pm

I don't know if there is a preferred way, but more typically I will move from metta to mindfulness than the other way around -- often metta settles/calms the mind, so when the metta is done, sometimes mindfulness is "just there" (w/o much hindrance). In going from mindfulness practice to metta, I suppose it would be useful to see as closely as possible what may actually be arising to cause that volition to shift to metta -- I know for me it could be a restlessness -- a desire to give my mind something more active to do. (YMMV of course!).
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Re: Metta and Satipattana

Post by bodom » Fri May 12, 2017 10:08 pm

This is the Buddhas instruction for practicing metta with satipatthana:
"Monks, the establishing of mindfulness is to be practiced with the thought, 'I'll watch after myself.' The establishing of mindfulness is to be practiced with the thought, 'I'll watch after others.' When watching after yourself, you watch after others. When watching after others, you watch after yourself.

"And how do you watch after others when watching after yourself? Through cultivating [the practice], through developing it, through pursuing it. This is how you watch after others when watching after yourself.

"And how do you watch after yourself when watching after others? Through endurance, through harmlessness, through a mind of goodwill, & through sympathy. This is how you watch after yourself when watching after others.

"The establishing of mindfulness is to be practiced with the thought, 'I'll watch after myself.' The establishing of mindfulness is to be practiced with the thought, 'I'll watch after others.' When watching after yourself, you watch after others. When watching after others, you watch after yourself."


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Also some advice from a modern day meditation master:
The Brahmaviharas or the "divine abidings," of loving kindness, compassion, joy and equanimity, should be the foundation of our awareness. - Ajahn Chah


There is no need to separate the two.

:namaste:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


"Dont send the mind outside. Watch the mind right at the mind."

- Ajahn Dune Atulo

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Re: Metta and Satipattana

Post by indianromeo » Sat May 13, 2017 1:50 am

Makes sense, thanks people.

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