sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

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sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by williamson » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:11 pm

I m a new Vipassana student and i have 2 questions that came to my mind and i was not comfortable asking the teacher about and i was wondering if you can help me with:

1- I have done a 10 day Vipassana retreat by S. N. Goenka and i haven't engaged in masturbation.. but now after i m back.. thoughts of wanting to self pleasure arising and such.
Before the course i have been practicing Taoist sexual energy, sperm retention and multi-orgasmic to conserve sperm/the divine seed.
and I m wondering if there is times where masturbating is healthy and times where it is bad in terms of used as an escapism of an emotion, stress, boredom.. ? and does masturbating affect your awareness and focus and mindfulness or what?

2- Also, i was suggesting for a friend of mine to join the Vipassana retreat and such.. but he is gay and i was wondering if the teachings of the Buddha and S.N.Goenka have anything against the LGBT people?

Thank you very much :hug: and hope the question isn't a repetition.. if it is, please refer me to similar topics.

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by Ben » Sun May 01, 2016 1:34 am

There's a very long thread on masturbation, you might want to review it.
From a Buddhist/Dhammic point of view, masturbation s not conducive to the development of concentration and wisdom. For a lay person it is not strictly a breach of the third precept but it is an activity which generates craving and a particular behavioural response when there is arousal. Also keep in mind that unskilful ways of implementing sense restraint can be harmful.

As to your second question - all are welcome. Best if your friend applies for a course and take it from there.
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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by williamson » Sun May 01, 2016 11:22 am

Ben wrote:There's a very long thread on masturbation, you might want to review it.
From a Buddhist/Dhammic point of view, masturbation s not conducive to the development of concentration and wisdom. For a lay person it is not strictly a breach of the third precept but it is an activity which generates craving and a particular behavioural response when there is arousal. Also keep in mind that unskilful ways of implementing sense restraint can be harmful.

As to your second question - all are welcome. Best if your friend applies for a course and take it from there.
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Do you think there is a meditational masturbation or mindful masturbation... in a way a technique where someone can be mindful and aware while doing self love?
Also it may serve as a training for later on when someone goes into a relationship, so he won't use sex as an escapism or as a mean to an end, for pleasure only. is there such techniques ?

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by Dhamma_Basti » Sun May 01, 2016 3:06 pm

I can't speak for Ben but from what I know I have never heard of a technique in the Theravāda-domain that incooporates sexual activity other than celibacy. :) But correct me if I'm wrong. The early buddhists texts never mentioned a technique based on sexual activity to reach higher levels of consciussness and this is a great difference to the teaching of the 道/daoism, where such concepts as you have been practicing before have been known from very early times on.
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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by williamson » Sun May 01, 2016 4:29 pm

Dhamma_Basti wrote:I can't speak for Ben but from what I know I have never heard of a technique in the Theravāda-domain that incooporates sexual activity other than celibacy. :) But correct me if I'm wrong. The early buddhists texts never mentioned a technique based on sexual activity to reach higher levels of consciussness and this is a great difference to the teaching of the 道/daoism, where such concepts as you have been practicing before have been known from very early times on.
Yeah, you are right but i was wondering if someone stumbled upon a technique that allow the incorporation of awareness and mindfulness in Love making/sex or even masturbation.

In my opinion, becoming wise shouldn't be by cutting an activity off for example celibacy and no masturbation just because it creates craving. but by finding a way to put mindfulness and awareness in such practice (knowing that sex is an instinctive and essential for humanity) also if you don't masturbate you will have wet sexual dreams so the mind still have this act of letting the sperm out by inducing sexual thoughts same as you do with masturbation but adding mindfulness into it and make it healthy behavior would help to make it serve our conscious development and less of a pure instinctive reaction to sexual thoughts.

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by Pinetree » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:07 am

You don't need a special technique to do mindfulness of the daily activities.

Talking about mindfulness, you may find that the habit is related to other aspects of our life, such as our thoughts, maybe eating too much or sleeping too much, also choice of foods, and other areas of restraint, such as right speech.

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by mscherekar » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:55 am

Actually Buddha taught new students to meditate on dirtyness of the body whenever a sexual desire arises. let it be for self sex homo or hetero. whenever a desire for sex arises go to you tube and type asubha meditation in search. you will find different videos depicting dirtyness of body. do this everytime the sexual desire arises unless u have a committed lifetime sexual partner with you. eventually also encourage your partner to learn this asubha meditation. so that both of you can follow natural celibacy after sometime.

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by mscherekar » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:01 am

copying from a goenka site:
People of all sexual orientations and gender identities are welcome to our courses.

The campuses at all the meditation centers in this tradition are separated into male and female sides. This extends to the residential accommodations, the walking areas, the dining rooms and the meditation hall. This structure is designed to reduce the tension that derives from the mixing of genders.

We recognize this doesn’t work for everyone and that sometimes members of the LGBTQ community may not feel comfortable on either side of the campus, or having to identify as male or female. If conforming to binary gender separation is a concern for you, please let us know when you apply to the course so that we can try to arrange a space for you where you can feel safe and not distracted while you meditate. You can let us know about your concerns in the section of the application where we ask, “Anything you wish to add to the above information?” We will contact you and together we will try to make a plan that works for you. Your private information is kept confidential for the teacher of the course and for accommodation arrangements only.

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Re: sexuality and the Vipassana meditation

Post by rightviewftw » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:45 am

mscherekar wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:01 am
copying from a goenka site:
People of all sexual orientations and gender identities are welcome to our courses.

The campuses at all the meditation centers in this tradition are separated into male and female sides. This extends to the residential accommodations, the walking areas, the dining rooms and the meditation hall. This structure is designed to reduce the tension that derives from the mixing of genders.

We recognize this doesn’t work for everyone and that sometimes members of the LGBTQ community may not feel comfortable on either side of the campus, or having to identify as male or female. If conforming to binary gender separation is a concern for you, please let us know when you apply to the course so that we can try to arrange a space for you where you can feel safe and not distracted while you meditate. You can let us know about your concerns in the section of the application where we ask, “Anything you wish to add to the above information?” We will contact you and together we will try to make a plan that works for you. Your private information is kept confidential for the teacher of the course and for accommodation arrangements only.
Do you know if a masculine presenting pre op transgender lesbian can attend the all female course?
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