http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhang" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;tiltbillings wrote:Isn't that something you smoke in order to get a divine buzz?bhanga
It appears it's usually a beverage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhang" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;tiltbillings wrote:Isn't that something you smoke in order to get a divine buzz?bhanga
Yes. You are quite correct. Another life time ago, my former significant-other's sister gave her a little baggie of locally grown wild cannabis. It sat in our kitchen for about a year or so. My former dear true (who proved to be so false) went off to some conference or other and being thoroughly bored, I decided to clean the kitchen and I found the long forgotten bag of weed, which I proceeded to throw away until I found an Indian cookbook that had a recipe for bhang. I fished out the pot, brewed up four cups of the stuff and drank one. Damn this stuff is crap, nothing is happening. I drank another, and I again came to the conclusion: damn this stuff is crap, nothing is happening. I'll try one more, and I started to feel a little buzz, at which I then drank the last cup. All this was in fairly short order. And then some fool pushed the express button to the top floor of the sixty story building in my head. I was so damned stoned so quickly I could not stand up, which I though was remarkably hilarious. I think I got unstoned sometime the next day, but I did not see god or anything. Just giggled and ate alot. Ah, the sixties.zavk wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhang" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;tiltbillings wrote:Isn't that something you smoke in order to get a divine buzz?bhanga
It appears it's usually a beverage.
bhanga. Is that a Goenka thing? I am not really famaliar with the term.zavk wrote:Not born till the end of the next decade, but it sounds like my pre-Buddhist life (and I suspect others have experienced the same too). Well, aren't we all glad we found Buddhism? It's bhanga and not bhang for me now.
tiltbillings wrote:bhanga. Is that a Goenka thing? I am not really famaliar with the term.zavk wrote:Not born till the end of the next decade, but it sounds like my pre-Buddhist life (and I suspect others have experienced the same too). Well, aren't we all glad we found Buddhism? It's bhanga and not bhang for me now.
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There are ten levels of knowledge in Vipassana, namely:
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(iii) Bhanga: knowledge of the rapidly changing nature of Rupa and Nama as a swift current or stream of energy; in particular, clear awareness of the phase of dissolution.
Also discussed here as bhanga-ñana, knowledge of dissolution: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... html#ch6.5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And, of course, you can read about it in the Visuddhimagga.5. Knowledge of Dissolution
Noticing the bodily and mental processes as they arise, he sees them part by part, link by link, piece by piece, fraction by fraction: "Just now it arises, just now it dissolves." When that knowledge of arising and passing away becomes mature, keen and strong, it will arise easily and proceed uninterruptedly as if borne onward of itself; also the bodily and mental processes will be easily discernible. When keen knowledge thus carries on and formations are easily discernible, then neither the arising of each bodily and mental process, nor its middle phase called "presence," nor the continuity of bodily and mental processes called "occurrence as unbroken flux" is apparent to him; nor are the shape of the hand, the foot, the face, the body, and so on, apparent to him. But what is apparent to him is only the ceasing of bodily and mental processes, called "vanishing," or "passing away," or "dissolution."
For instance, while noticing the rising movement of the abdomen, neither its initial nor middle phase is apparent, but only the ceasing or vanishing, which is called the final phase, is apparent; and so it is also with the falling movement of the abdomen. Again, in the case of bending an arm or leg, while noticing the act of bending, neither the initial nor the middle phase of bending is apparent, nor is the form of the limb apparent, but only the final phase of ceasing and vanishing is apparent. It is similar in the other cases of stretching a limb, and so on.
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Metta,"Now suppose that in the autumn — when it's raining in fat, heavy drops — a water bubble were to appear & disappear on the water, and a man with good eyesight were to see it, observe it, & appropriately examine it. To him — seeing it, observing it, & appropriately examining it — it would appear empty, void, without substance: for what substance would there be in a water bubble? In the same way, a monk sees, observes, & appropriately examines any feeling that is past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant or subtle; common or sublime; far or near. To him — seeing it, observing it, & appropriately examining it — it would appear empty, void, without substance: for what substance would there be in feeling?
I don't have enough experience with different approaches to say be certain, but my limited experience has been that different things tend to be more likely to arise with particular techniques. The body scanning seems to induce this particular thing to arise reasonably easily. My normal technique is Mahasi and the closest thing I get using that is that I can be watching the rising and falling of the abdomen and it can start to feel like it's kind of "churning" in a circular sort of manner, rather than feeling like rising and falling. A possibly related effect is when the experience become jerky. Kind of like watching people dance under a strobe - the "flashes" of "noticing" become discontinuous. A more distant possibly related effect is the body seeming to be disappearing, which is talked about by samatha-oriented teachers, such as Ajahn Brahm.Monkey Mind wrote: I have often wondered about whether the experience of bhanga was power of suggestion or something unique to the technique.
It seems to me that the bhanga of Mahasi and Goenka are two very different things. But both are useful. The Goenka bhanga arises from the body-scan technique - the same effects are known in Hatha yoga and other "energy work" techniques. What one can learn here is the pliability of the tactile image of the physical body. We are not directly aware of the physical body. Instead, the sensory information is used to construe an image of our body - and this image is our perception. It is more pronounced in dream or trance states - the image of the physical body we identify with can be transformed at will. But it is so during wake, too, and with sufficient concentration we can manipulate this tactile image. Melting, falling, sinking into the floor - it is useful to see the pliability of this image so one can more easily detach from it.mikenz66 wrote:Hi MM,I don't have enough experience with different approaches to say be certain, but my limited experience has been that different things tend to be more likely to arise with particular techniques. The body scanning seems to induce this particular thing to arise reasonably easily. My normal technique is Mahasi and the closest thing I get using that is that I can be watching the rising and falling of the abdomen and it can start to feel like it's kind of "churning" in a circular sort of manner, rather than feeling like rising and falling. A possibly related effect is when the experience become jerky. Kind of like watching people dance under a strobe - the "flashes" of "noticing" become discontinuous. A more distant possibly related effect is the body seeming to be disappearing, which is talked about by samatha-oriented teachers, such as Ajahn Brahm.Monkey Mind wrote: I have often wondered about whether the experience of bhanga was power of suggestion or something unique to the technique.
I don't think any of these details really matter. They can be useful to your teacher diagnosing where you are, but for the student it's just something to observe without getting excited or alarmed...
Metta
Mike