Drowsiness

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Haniver
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Drowsiness

Post by Haniver » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:05 am

Hi,
I have a problem with formal meditation where I just can't stay awake. It's been like this for months. I like sleeping very much and my current lifestyle doesn't allow for 8-hour-sleep nights, but I think that's not the problem; some 10 or 15 years ago I used to go to retreats where I had much less sleep and I could meditate free of drowsiness: I even got hallucinations a couple of times due to sleep deprivation during long meditation nights, but I stayed awake. Nowadays I wouldn't even dream about that: I fall asleep every single time. What's your advice?

char101
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Re: Drowsiness

Post by char101 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:20 am

Walking meditation. As a bonus it is also a good exercise.

Switch to a light kasina (use a flashlight*) as a meditation object until you don't feel sleepy anymore.

(*) I suggest a flashlight with a cree q5 led. This led can produce a rather bright white light. Also an zoomable head flashlight so that you can focus it to a small circle. A white light helps to remove sleepiness compared to yellow light.

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Re: Drowsiness

Post by SteRo » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:15 am

Haniver wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:05 am
...What's your advice?
Get more sleep. The need for sleep isn't permanent but impermanent. And exclude pathological causes.

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Re: Drowsiness

Post by JamesTheGiant » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:23 am

Drowsiness is one of the five classic hindrances.
At this link there's an article giving some good quotes from the Buddha, about the antidotes to drowsiness.
https://www.wildmind.org/blogs/on-pract ... and-torpor
My solution was to do a lot more walking meditation instead, and when in sitting meditation I changed from breath meditation to a different object of awareness.

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Re: Drowsiness

Post by Haniver » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:18 pm

Thank you all. I'm doing walking meditation almost exclusively now and it's working very well!

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Alīno
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Re: Drowsiness

Post by Alīno » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:46 pm

Try to reduce amount of information that enter your 6 senses and physical activity like sport.
Your mind and body need to rest a lot because there is too much input information that your brain and body need to digest.

Try metta before sleeping too.
Ajahn Nanadassano (before ordaining) : Venerable Ajahn, what is the bigest error that buddhist do in their practice?
Ajahn Jayasaro : They stop practicing ...

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Re: Drowsiness

Post by salayatananirodha » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:34 pm

16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

- Hemavatasutta


links:
https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/index.htm
http://thaiforestwisdom.org/canonical-texts/
http://seeingthroughthenet.net/wp-conte ... _Heart.pdf
https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html

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