Satipathana and Vipallasa?

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SarathW
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Satipathana and Vipallasa?

Post by SarathW » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:10 pm

Satipathana and Vipallasa?
The follosing video Ven. Sudassana mentioned that four Satipathana has the direct link to eliminate Vipalassa.

Contemplation of mind eliminates the perceiving constancy in the inconstant (Anicca)
Contemplation on feeling eliminate the pleasure in the stressful (Dukkha)
Contemplation on Sanna and Sankahra eliminate the self in what's not-self,(Anatta)
Contemplation on body eliminate the attractiveness in the unattractive,(Asuba)

Is there a Sutta or any other source to support this?
My understanding was we contemplate Vipallasa in all four Satipathanas.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

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Re: Satipathana and Vipallasa?

Post by paul » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:47 am

It comes from the Commentary:

“Or it may be said that these Four Arousings of Mindfulness are taught for casting out the illusions [vipallasa] concerning beauty, pleasure, permanence, and an ego.

The body is ugly. There are people led astray by the illusion that it is a thing of beauty. In order to show such people the ugliness of the body and to make them give up their wrong idea, the First Arousing of Mindfulness is taught.

Feeling is suffering. There are people subject to the illusion that it gives pleasure. In order to show such people the painfulness of feeling and to make them give up their wrong idea, the Second Arousing of Mindfulness is taught.

Consciousness is impermanent. There are people who, owing to an illusion, believe that it is permanent. To show them the impermanence of consciousness and to wean them of their wrong belief, the Third Arousing of Mindfulness is taught.

Mental objects are insubstantial, are soulless, and possess no entity. There are people who believe by reason of an illusion that these mental things are substantial, endowed with an abiding core, or a soul, or that they form part of a soul, an ego or some substance that abides. To convince such errant folk of the fact of the soullessness or the insubstantiality of mental things and to destroy the illusion which clouds their minds, the Fourth Arousing of Mindfulness is taught.”—-“The Way of Mindfulness”; The Satipatthana Sutta and Its Commentary,” Soma Thera.

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Re: Satipathana and Vipallasa?

Post by SarathW » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:01 pm

There is further talk about how Satipathana practitioner is liberated.

Contemplation of mind eliminates the perceiving constancy in the inconstant (Anicca) = Signless liberation
Contemplation on feeling eliminate the pleasure in the stressful (Dukkha) = Desireless liberation
Contemplation on Sanna and Sankahra eliminate the self in what's not-self,(Anatta) = Emptiness liberation
Contemplation on body eliminates the attractiveness in the unattractive,(Asuba)=?????

It is interesting that there is no mention of liberation by body contemplation!!
Frist three are Nama related.
Body contemplation is Rupa related.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Satipathana and Vipallasa?

Post by SarathW » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:23 pm

From the above analysis, it appears Anatta applicable only for Dhamma (sanna and Sankhara).
Is this correct?
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