question about attaining jhana

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Cessation
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question about attaining jhana

Post by Cessation » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:47 pm

Is it possible to attain jhana while meditating while living at home with family around? Because in the suttas it says you need to be secluded from sensual pleasures.
Say like I wanted to just go to work then come home and meditate and not use any entertainment.

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Re: question about attaining jhana

Post by tiltbillings » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:50 pm

Cessation wrote:Is it possible to attain jhana while meditating while living at home with family around? Because in the suttas it says you need to be secluded from sensual pleasures.
Say like I wanted to just go to work then come home and meditate and not use any entertainment.
Sure; however, you illustrate one of the major problems with with this jhana focus.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: question about attaining jhana

Post by bodom » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:00 am

I highly recommend checking out Bhante Gunaratana's book Beyond Mindfulness in Plain English.

It can be read online in part here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=UGzTsK ... ks_s&cad=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And purchased here:
http://www.wisdompubs.org/Pages/display ... n=&image=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In this book Bhante G says that yes it is possible for meditators to reach jhana while living the household life provided certain conditions are met first; maintaining the precepts, practicing contentment, sense restraint and meditating AT LEAST two hours daily. Hope this helps get you started.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


"Dont send the mind outside. Watch the mind right at the mind."

- Ajahn Dune Atulo

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Re: question about attaining jhana

Post by Cessation » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:50 am

Thanks for the replies! That is very encouraging. Looks like I have a bit of prep-work to do but at least it's a start.
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Re: question about attaining jhana

Post by chownah » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:44 am

At one point in my life I became the caretaker of the community facility for a shared housing cooperative and when I moved in I started my daily meditation routine....Sat AM I started my meditation when the community kids filled the room next to mine and started watching saturday morning cartoons...loud volume of course....there were no other TV's in the community so this was their only place to watch. I persevered and after a few weeks I found that I could meditate even with the kids' activities.....but I was fairly experienced in meditation and don't know how a beginner would have faired.
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Re: question about attaining jhana

Post by daverupa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:13 am

A simple yet ardent anapanasati practice leads to jhana, and is a better thing to focus on.

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  • "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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