Unwholesome Jhananga?

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SarathW
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Unwholesome Jhananga?

Post by SarathW » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:28 am

Interestingly I came across the answer to a question I was contemplating on for some time.
It appears Vitakka, Vicara, Pithi, Sukha, and Ekagata also applies to unwholesome mental states as well.
Is there a Sutta support for this?
The following video is in Sinhalese.


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Re: Unwholesome Jhananga?

Post by JamesTheGiant » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:05 am

Darth Vader had a meditation chamber.... probably some unwholesome jhana going on in there.
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Re: Unwholesome Jhananga?

Post by paul » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:25 am

The information is in Table II., Formation- Group, Appendix, Buddhist Dictionary (also an appendix in the Vism.), where those formations are shown among the eleven general psychological elements, not necessarily unwholesome.
The source would be in the lists in the Abhidhamma, not in the suttas.

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Re: Unwholesome Jhananga?

Post by Pseudobabble » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:22 am

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:05 am
Darth Vader had a meditation chamber.... probably some unwholesome jhana going on in there.
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Darth Vader is one of my role models.

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EDIT: thats a f*cking cool meditation chamber
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