Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
Can you practice Brahma Vihara in the second Jhana?
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Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
In my experience, if you mean metta bhavana as a practice, you can do it as your practice when you are sitting and can easily lead you into jhanas. Visualizing metta and cultivating it can be the easiest and fastest way for some people to experience samadhi.
Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
My understanding is you cant practice Brahama Vihara in Second Jhana.
In second Jhana there is no Vitakka and Vicara.
In second Jhana there is no Vitakka and Vicara.
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Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
Thank you Sengnapha.
In second jhana you do not have vtakka and vicara.
So how do you practice Karuna and Muditha in second Jahana.
In second jhana you do not have vtakka and vicara.
So how do you practice Karuna and Muditha in second Jahana.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
I think jhana in itself is a brahma realm, where the heart is saturated with bliss & love due to having no (unwholesome) hindrances. There is no need to practise verbal 'metta' recitations because the heart already is saturated with love.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
https://soundcloud.com/doodoot/paticcasamuppada
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Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
Hi DD
Yes, I agree.
My question is how he tries to mary four Jhana with Brahmavihara.
How do you practice Brhama Vihara if you do not have Vitakka and Vicar in sencond Jhana.
In this video.
Metta =1st Jhana
Karuna = 2nd Jhana
Muditha = 3rd Jhana
Upekkha = 4th Jhana
Yes, I agree.
My question is how he tries to mary four Jhana with Brahmavihara.
How do you practice Brhama Vihara if you do not have Vitakka and Vicar in sencond Jhana.
In this video.
Metta =1st Jhana
Karuna = 2nd Jhana
Muditha = 3rd Jhana
Upekkha = 4th Jhana
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
There is no need to have Vitakka and Vicara in second Jhana because the heart is saturated with love.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
https://soundcloud.com/doodoot/paticcasamuppada
https://soundcloud.com/doodoot/anapanasati
https://soundcloud.com/doodoot/paticcasamuppada
https://soundcloud.com/doodoot/anapanasati
Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
So then what happens in the third Jhana?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
It's possible. I've read it explained in either the scriptures or the commentaries before.
Here's a quote from an article on the Brahmaviharas by Nyanaponika Thera:
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... el006.html
Here's a quote from an article on the Brahmaviharas by Nyanaponika Thera:
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... el006.html
That meditation is called Brahma-vihara-bhavana, the meditative development of the sublime states. The practical aim is to achieve, with the help of these sublime states, those high stages of mental concentration called jhana, "meditative absorption." The meditations on love, compassion and sympathetic joy may each produce the attainment of the first three absorptions, while the meditation on equanimity will lead to the fourth jhana only, in which equanimity is the most significant factor.
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Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
Thanks LG.
So Jhana can be attained in many different ways.
It appears you can go straight to fourth Jhana.
What is equanimity by the way?
Very interesting.those high stages of mental concentration called jhana
So Jhana can be attained in many different ways.
This is even more interesting.while the meditation on equanimity will lead to the fourth jhana only, in which equanimity is the most significant factor.
It appears you can go straight to fourth Jhana.
What is equanimity by the way?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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Re: Can you practice Brahma Vihara in second Jhana?
SarathW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:54 am Thanks LG.Very interesting.those high stages of mental concentration called jhana
So Jhana can be attained in many different ways.
This is even more interesting.while the meditation on equanimity will lead to the fourth jhana only, in which equanimity is the most significant factor.
It appears you can go straight to fourth Jhana.
What is equanimity by the way?
No problem
Equanimity means serenity. It's mental balance despite the highs and lows of life.
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