Anapanasati meditation question

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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Re: Anapanasati meditation question

Post by Spiny Norman » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:04 pm

daverupa wrote:The term means "experiencing rapture" alongside the breathing, "sensitive to rapture" alongside the breathing; not focusing on it.
Yes, continuing attention on the breath provides continuity and acts as an "anchor" for the practice.
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Re: Anapanasati meditation question

Post by alfaaa » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:39 am

daverupa wrote:
alfaaa wrote:What does buddha mean 'breathe in (and out) while focusing on rapture etc.'? :thinking:
The term means "experiencing rapture" alongside the breathing, "sensitive to rapture" alongside the breathing; not focusing on it.
What does that mean? Does he mean rapture is always there and we have to experience it, or must we create it through breathing?

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Re: Anapanasati meditation question

Post by daverupa » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:49 am

Rapture has a cause.

Rapture leads to tranquility and on to happiness, so if there is a suitable basis this chain can occur during anapanasati and leads straight into concentration (samadhi).

With respect to the instructions for anapanasati, one simply notes these in turn as one breathes right along and, noting them in comparison the way one is already used to doing with in-vs.-out breathing (and long vs. short breaths) the nature of coarse & refined mental fabrication generally comes into view, itself something to tranquilize and let go of, the way one brought the body generally into view, tranquilized it, and let go of it in the first tetrad.

The similarity of the tetrads is that they all use a given phenomenological set in order to facilitate grouping up, calming, & letting go, leading into jhana and, ideally, samma-samadhi.
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    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

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Re: Anapanasati meditation question

Post by SarathW » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:20 am

Can you explain rapture according to your own experience?
I can't differentiate gladness from rapture.
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Re: Anapanasati meditation question

Post by daverupa » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:04 am

Rapture is a static-y thrill that's similar to frisson, -ish. Like the first minutes of a heavy rain after a long hot and humid day.

Tranquility is the cool, overcast post-storm period. Gladness is a contented quiescence, an affable confidence.
  • "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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