does anyone know of good asubha resources?

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by Garrib » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:03 am

I remember when I was a teenager, and there were times that I found it necessary to subdue desire quickly (at the doctor's office and a "cute" nurse comes in, eg.)...I remember thinking of my grandmother, and that really worked!

I have also done Asubha meditation and it has worked well for me. I like to know it is there as a support, but yes, it can lead to aversion towards my own body and that of others...It does seem to be tricky territory.

Good luck!

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by altar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:44 pm

SEC201482 wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:50 pm
Ernest Becker unintentionally and unwittingly produced one of the best asubha resources out there in The Denial of Death with his discussion of "anality." It is a rather profound discourse on the preposterous nature of the human body and the incongruity of having sensual desire for it given its nature.

http://waywardblogging.com/2013/09/dual ... -of-death/

Is obsession with the disgusting elements the point of asubha? According to Brahms essay it is a tool for letting go of the body. Familiarity w poop might deter one from lust but it doesn’t quite seem the point of dhamma... or even contemplating the four elements... the idea is to understand ones place in the world, not an obsession w it... opinions?

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by PuerAzaelis » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:23 pm

So ... not the Disney Channel, then.
Generally, enjoyment of speech is the gateway to poor [results]. So it becomes the foundation for generating all negative emotional states. Jampel Pawo, The Certainty of the Diamond Mind


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Post by rightviewftw » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:11 am

Vijaya Sutta: Victory

Whether walking, standing,
sitting, or lying down,
it flexes & stretches:
this is the body's movement.
Joined together with tendons & bones,
plastered over with muscle & skin,
hidden by complexion,
the body isn't seen
for what it is:
filled with intestines, filled with stomach,
with the lump of the liver,
bladder, lungs, heart,
kidneys, spleen,
mucus, sweat, saliva, fat,
blood, synovial fluid, bile, & oil.
On top of that,
in nine streams,
filth is always flowing from it:
from the eyes : eye secretions,
from the ears : ear secretions,
from the nose : mucus,
from the mouth : now vomit,
now phlegm,
now bile.
from the body : beads of sweat.
And on top of that,
its hollow head is filled with brains.

The fool, beset by ignorance,
thinks it beautiful.
But when it lies dead,
swollen, livid,
cast away in a charnel ground,
even relatives don't care for it.
Dogs feed on it,
jackals, wolves, & worms.
Crows & vultures feed on it,
along with any other animals there.

Having heard the Awakened One's words,
the discerning monk
comprehends, for he sees it
for what it is:
"As this is, so is that.
As that, so this."
Within & without,
he should let desire for the body
fade away.
With desire & passion faded away,
the discerning monk arrives here:
at the deathless,
the calm,
the undying state
of Unbinding.

This two-footed, filthy, evil-smelling,
filled-with-various-carcasses,
oozing-out-here-&-there body:
Whoever would think,
on the basis of a body like this,
to exalt himself or disparage another:

What is that
if not blindness?

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Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:17 am

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by mario92 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:20 am

You can put asubha meditation in YouTube there are very good videos. Or you can print a Photo of whatever you find disgusting and to paste it in your room when you feel the need to see it. Sometimes is better practice with the body so oneself can take it everywhere, imaginating what is inside starting under the skin, Grease, flesh, blood, etc. Other times also helps to be in nature alone. Came along with disgusting orgánic thrash or similar and sense with most senses you can. Then practice metta because it can makes you or other people angry, or shamata as other ajahns said to do it before this practice. I feel that if i don't do this practice eventually i would break the third precept and start suffering rolling over again. Promoting asubha is good for everyone and oneself later. I was thinking in doing an explanation or something similar in YouTube. Maybe that is why in some countries there are rotten corpses to see them in streets, because at some extent it is beneficial. Using imagination is also part of the practice i'm Still a beginner. Famous contemporary monks teach how to do it also in Youtube Ajahn Martín and Ajahn suchart, Ajahn chah in some book also.
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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by dylanj » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:33 am

I can add you to a facebook group re: asubha
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by mario92 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:35 am

Yes thank you.
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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by salayatananirodha » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:05 am

I've looked at several corpses online, watched people die many sorts of graphic death, but I suspect the 'real-life' experience would trump this. How would I go about observing bodies say at a crematorium? The 'carrion stench' of a days'-dead body would be a source of dispassion.
16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

- Hemavatasutta


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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:27 am

salayatananirodha wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:05 am
I've looked at several corpses online, watched people die many sorts of graphic death, but I suspect the 'real-life' experience would trump this. How would I go about observing bodies say at a crematorium? The 'carrion stench' of a days'-dead body would be a source of dispassion.
If you explain yourself well they are likely to let you take a look, one may also contact funeral parlors.

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:01 pm

rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:27 am
salayatananirodha wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:05 am
I've looked at several corpses online, watched people die many sorts of graphic death, but I suspect the 'real-life' experience would trump this. How would I go about observing bodies say at a crematorium? The 'carrion stench' of a days'-dead body would be a source of dispassion.
If you explain yourself well they are likely to let you take a look, one may also contact funeral parlors.
Different countries probably vary, but in the UK this would be out of the question. Crematoria here do occasional "open days", when the public can go "behind the scenes", but you would not get to see dead bodies.

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:31 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:01 pm
rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:27 am
salayatananirodha wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:05 am
I've looked at several corpses online, watched people die many sorts of graphic death, but I suspect the 'real-life' experience would trump this. How would I go about observing bodies say at a crematorium? The 'carrion stench' of a days'-dead body would be a source of dispassion.
If you explain yourself well they are likely to let you take a look, one may also contact funeral parlors.
Different countries probably vary, but in the UK this would be out of the question. Crematoria here do occasional "open days", when the public can go "behind the scenes", but you would not get to see dead bodies.
I tried this in Norway. I was initially trying to get a job there and was in dialogue with the agency that was contracted to operate the place. There was no chance of employment but i was invited to take a look in the oven:)

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Re: does anyone know of good asubha resources?

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:43 pm

rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:31 pm
Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:01 pm
rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:27 am

If you explain yourself well they are likely to let you take a look, one may also contact funeral parlors.
Different countries probably vary, but in the UK this would be out of the question. Crematoria here do occasional "open days", when the public can go "behind the scenes", but you would not get to see dead bodies.
I tried this in Norway. I was initially trying to get a job there and was in dialogue with the agency that was contracted to operate the place. There was no chance of employment but i was invited to take a look in the oven:)
I hope it wasn't occupied at the time!

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