I really think that to say that downloading something without permission is "unskillful greed" to be a real stretch of the imagination.........greed?....hardly.....andre9999 wrote:Even if it's not stealing, then when you're describing is just unskillful greed - and that still breaks the 2nd precept last time I checked.Alex123 wrote:Not necessarily. If the person wouldn't buy that copy anyway, no income is lost anyway.
Just to remind us what the 2nd precept actually is, since the thread has degenerated into being about whether illegally downloaded music is stealing or not:I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.
I really don't think that "unskillful greed" is a violation of the 2nd precinct....can you give a reference to support your view?
When something is copied from the internet, or from a TV, or from a radio, or from a live performance, nothing is taken...nothing....nadda....zip....zilch....zero.....
If people don't want to have their stuff copied then they should not place their stuff in the public venue where people have unrestricted access to it....its as simple as that......
There is public space and there is private space (from a legal standpoint)....I have the freedom to record WHATEVER happens in a public space....my home is a private space and WHATEVER is in my private space of home I am free to record as this is my private space.....if internet providers send stuff to my private space then I have the right to do what I want with it....copy to my hearts content.........I DO NOT LET CORPORATE GREED INTERFERE WITH MY RIGHTS IN THE PUBLIC SPACE TO RECORD WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE AND I DO NOT LET CORPORATE GREED INTERFERE WITH MY RIGHT IN MY PRIVATE SPACE OF HOME TO RECORD WHATEVER SOMEONE SENDS THERE.....if you don't want me to copy something from the internet then DON'T SEND IT TO ME.......its as simple as that.