Drinking 0.5% non alcoholic beer

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Drinking 0.5% non alcoholic beer

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Does this constitute as a precept violation?

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Greetings,

If you can become intoxicated and heedless on 0.5% non-alcoholic beer then fair play to you.

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Moreover, I think an effort to do so would just lead to bloating and frequent urination, neither of which are violations of the precepts.

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retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:52 pm
Greetings,

If you can become intoxicated and heedless on 0.5% non-alcoholic beer then fair play to you.

:toast:

Moreover, I think an effort to do so would just lead to bloating and frequent urination, neither of which are violations of the precepts.

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Maybe depends on your metabolism. For me, even 0.5% beer has an unpleasant effect on me, whereas flamed crepes are fine...

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mikenz66 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:07 pm
Maybe depends on your metabolism. For me, even 0.5% beer has an unpleasant effect on me, whereas flamed crepes are fine...

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Maybe your climate, too. Here in the dry tropics we have to work hard to stay hydrated and I often drink light beer as a substitute for soft drinks, as a way of avoiding the mind-bogglingly excessive sugar in soft drinks.
Sure, water is fine - and I drink lots - but the fizz is nice and the cold is nice. As for getting drunk or even moderately heedless on it, it isn't a problem. As retro said, you would have to drink so much you would get physically uncomfortable first.

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Well, I'm just reporting what I have experienced. People are different. Perhaps the "no alcohol beer" I had was stronger than that (it was in China a few years ago). It didn't make me, but certainly messed with my mental clarity.

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Disciple wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:02 pm
Does this constitute as a precept violation?
Yes.
Forget the Buddha. Try to convince a policeman to get away from a fine that you had only 0.5 alcoholic Beer.

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retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:52 pm
Greetings,

If you can become intoxicated and heedless on 0.5% non-alcoholic beer then fair play to you.

:toast:

Moreover, I think an effort to do so would just lead to bloating and frequent urination, neither of which are violations of the precepts.

Metta,
Paul. :)
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SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:12 pm
Disciple wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:02 pm
Does this constitute as a precept violation?
Yes.
Forget the Buddha. Try to convince a policeman to get away from a fine that you had only 0.5 alcoholic Beer.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=19594&p=
I've read that a slice of chocolate cake and a cup of orange juice have the same level of alcohol as a pint of non alcoholic beer. I doubt that laypeople and monks who enjoy those are breaking the precept.

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A study conducted by the department of psychology at Indiana University said, "Because non-alcoholic beer provides sensory cues that simulate alcoholic beer, this beverage may be more effective than other placebos in contributing to a credible manipulation of expectancies to receive alcohol",[8] making people feel "drunk" when physically they are not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-alcohol_beer
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SarathW wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:30 am
A study conducted by the department of psychology at Indiana University said, "Because non-alcoholic beer provides sensory cues that simulate alcoholic beer, this beverage may be more effective than other placebos in contributing to a credible manipulation of expectancies to receive alcohol",[8] making people feel "drunk" when physically they are not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-alcohol_beer
Drank one last night. Didn't feel anything.

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The best non alcohol beers are from japan. And they have less than 0.01% alcohol- essentially zero alcohol.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/matcha-jp. ... 3famp=true

I sometimes indulge after a hard day in the onsens with my wife.

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From what I hear the best ones are from Germany but they are a little pricey. I would love to try out the ones from Japan if I can find them here. The one I tried so far is Coors Edge which wasn't that bad.

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Disciple wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:29 pm
From what I hear the best ones are from Germany but they are a little pricey. I would love to try out the ones from Japan if I can find them here. The one I tried so far is Coors Edge which wasn't that bad.
I tried one in switzerland that was pretty good- but if you can get hold of an Asahi Dry Zero let us know what you think. The only American I tried was Budweiser , which was awful.

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Re: Drinking 0.5% non alcoholic beer

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Absolutely I'll let you know :toast:

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