lay people should still try

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by anthbrown84 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:34 pm

I once heard Ajahn Succito say on a retreat

"Your Citta doesn't know whether youre a monk or a lay person"

I think this is very relevant to this topic :)
"Your job in practise is to know the difference between the heart and the activity of the heart, that is it, it is that simple" Ajahn Tate

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by oncereturner » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:19 pm

I have a dilemma. If all monks, wise layman practice brahmacharya, humanity will fall into the world of fools.
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Sam Vara » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:30 pm

anthbrown84 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:34 pm
I once heard Ajahn Succito say on a retreat

"Your Citta doesn't know whether youre a monk or a lay person"

I think this is very relevant to this topic :)
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 am

look at the chapters about lay people in here, citta, visakha etc https://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/defaul ... review.pdf
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by dylanj » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:43 am

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 am
look at the chapters about lay people in here, citta, visakha etc https://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/defaul ... review.pdf
:goodpost:
Born, become, arisen – made, prepared, short-lived
Bonded by decay and death – a nest for sickness, perishable
Produced by seeking nutriment – not fit to take delight in


Departure from this is peaceful – beyond reasoning and enduring
Unborn, unarisen – free from sorrow and stain
Ceasing of all factors of suffering – stilling of all preparations is bliss

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:21 am

I meditated more or less daily for about 3 years for mental benefits which are obvious and why we are all here, i did this before hearing the Dhamma, as i established that ultimate ethics exist i just started to follow the ultimate ethics for strategy in everything and meditating a lot more and systematically according to instruction from teacher whilst studying the Dhamma.

If it was not for meditation i would be a dead i think.

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:48 am

i meditated for years myself, may have been a skill i'd developed in a previous life. i did not fully consider virtue having an impact on your meditation, i suffered from wrong views. i've thought of making a past-life speculation thread
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:06 am

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:48 am
i meditated for years myself, may have been a skill i'd developed in a previous life. i did not fully consider virtue having an impact on your meditation, i suffered from wrong views. i've thought of making a past-life speculation thread
it would have been even worse if you did not meditate i dare assume, i know for me it also produced no amazing results but it kept me going and even trained some faculties which were useful in my work and study.

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:14 pm

yes it completely changed my life, and i was rebounding from an extremely dark time. could go into detail somewhere another time. but i got quite complacent. i drank and drank alcohol until i degenerated and put on a whole bunch of weight and fell into more evil states of mind. i think i would have very well ended up in hell if it werent for dylan
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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http://seeingthroughthenet.net/
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