lay people should still try

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by anthbrown84 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:34 pm

I once heard Ajahn Succito say on a retreat

"Your Citta doesn't know whether youre a monk or a lay person"

I think this is very relevant to this topic :)
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by oncereturner » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:19 pm

I have a dilemma. If all monks, wise layman practice brahmacharya, humanity will fall into the world of fools.
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Sam Vara » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:30 pm

anthbrown84 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:34 pm
I once heard Ajahn Succito say on a retreat

"Your Citta doesn't know whether youre a monk or a lay person"

I think this is very relevant to this topic :)
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 am

look at the chapters about lay people in here, citta, visakha etc https://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/defaul ... review.pdf
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by dylanj » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:43 am

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 am
look at the chapters about lay people in here, citta, visakha etc https://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/defaul ... review.pdf
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susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: lay people should still try

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:21 am

I meditated more or less daily for about 3 years for mental benefits which are obvious and why we are all here, i did this before hearing the Dhamma, as i established that ultimate ethics exist i just started to follow the ultimate ethics for strategy in everything and meditating a lot more and systematically according to instruction from teacher whilst studying the Dhamma.

If it was not for meditation i would be a dead i think.
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:48 am

i meditated for years myself, may have been a skill i'd developed in a previous life. i did not fully consider virtue having an impact on your meditation, i suffered from wrong views. i've thought of making a past-life speculation thread
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by rightviewftw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:06 am

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:48 am
i meditated for years myself, may have been a skill i'd developed in a previous life. i did not fully consider virtue having an impact on your meditation, i suffered from wrong views. i've thought of making a past-life speculation thread
it would have been even worse if you did not meditate i dare assume, i know for me it also produced no amazing results but it kept me going and even trained some faculties which were useful in my work and study.
How to Destroy any addiction
How to Meditate: Satipatthana Mahasi
Медитация Сатипаттхана Випассана
How To Develop Factors of Enlightenment & Perceptions
Complete Manual of Insight by Mahasi Sayadaw
Tyranny of Words - An Introduction to General Semantics
Ledi Sayadaw's Anapana Dipani (Samatha) @ ffmt.fr/articles/maitres/LediS/anapana-dipani.ledi-sayadaw.pdf
Dhammapada @ myweb.ncku.edu.tw/~lsn46/tipitaka/sutta/khuddaka/dhammapada/dhp-contrast-reading/dhp-contrast-reading-en/
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Re: lay people should still try

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:14 pm

yes it completely changed my life, and i was rebounding from an extremely dark time. could go into detail somewhere another time. but i got quite complacent. i drank and drank alcohol until i degenerated and put on a whole bunch of weight and fell into more evil states of mind. i think i would have very well ended up in hell if it werent for dylan
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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