There could be several reasons, in a flawed justice system and a flawed society there is no reason why you should not try to stay in reclusion. In my case the flaws were largely geographical - I live in one of the longest counties in the UK, the court was right at the south, I was right at the north. I have no car so it was an awkward two hours bus journey, with about 40 mins walking on top, and having to set off really early in the morning and wait 90 minutes for the court to open. Reading the fine print afterwards, I might have been able to make a case for not attending on geographical grounds. Once there I did read the fine print and told them they should be providing a taxi for me - and they just laughed, even though it was there in black and white that "unreasonable travel time" would mean a taxi would be provided. Use any true excuse you can think of to get out of it! Read the fine print to find "get out" clauses. If I'm chosen again I'll argue strongly against attending, and if they say "you're doing it!" probably refuse to turn up and suffer the £1000 fine, it's better than two weeks on the hell bus!ieee23 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:49 pm If you don't do it other citizens will have to. The justice system protects people and it needs jurors to function. Why should other citizens who no more and no less equal than you are have to do that whereas you will not because you simply do not like it? It would be shoving your responsibilities off onto others. No disrespect.
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Here's another angle...
How about using the summons, and reporting for duty, and potentially waiting around for hours just to be dismissed....as part of one's practice?
Aren't we all working towards accepting things as they are and not getting caught up in the discriminating mind? Doing something we don't really want to do (that doesn't force us to violate the precepts, that is) seems like a perfect opportunity to put the practice to the test and learn something.
It reminds me of the story about Sumedho going to Ajahn Chah and reporting on how wonderful and non-contentious and smooth everything was at the new monastery, to which Ajahn Chah grunted "you'll never learn anything that way!"
Seems to me going along with the annoying and inconvenient realities of life is part of the way we manifest the teachings.
And, if you DO get selected, what better person to be fair and compassionate and balanced in their judgment than someone who spends large portions of their waking hours cultivating those qualities on a larger scale than most of the others in the jury room? You could actually be of great benefit to other humans in their time of suffering (both the suffering of the plaintiff and the defendant and all the witnesses).
How about using the summons, and reporting for duty, and potentially waiting around for hours just to be dismissed....as part of one's practice?
Aren't we all working towards accepting things as they are and not getting caught up in the discriminating mind? Doing something we don't really want to do (that doesn't force us to violate the precepts, that is) seems like a perfect opportunity to put the practice to the test and learn something.
It reminds me of the story about Sumedho going to Ajahn Chah and reporting on how wonderful and non-contentious and smooth everything was at the new monastery, to which Ajahn Chah grunted "you'll never learn anything that way!"
Seems to me going along with the annoying and inconvenient realities of life is part of the way we manifest the teachings.
And, if you DO get selected, what better person to be fair and compassionate and balanced in their judgment than someone who spends large portions of their waking hours cultivating those qualities on a larger scale than most of the others in the jury room? You could actually be of great benefit to other humans in their time of suffering (both the suffering of the plaintiff and the defendant and all the witnesses).
Right now, it's like this...
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Many jurisdictions in the US issue bench warrants for ignoring jury duty. Which is not really a big deal until you call the cops or get a traffic ticket and then you could be in for a hefty fine or even jail time.
“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig
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Yes, I tried that, but it's very difficult. Too many disturbances. Maybe only very advanced mediators should do jury service .
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Sorry, wrong posting, please delete mods!
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It being right or wrong probably depends on the reasons for ignoring it.
Also the country that you are a citizen of might make a difference.
So what reason do you have for ignoring the summons?
It's seems odd to me that someone didn't ask you that question much sooner!
Seems a bit un-mindful not to ask.
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Yes, the way they have it in probably most countries around the world. And perhaps Americans are so sue-happy because of the jury system ...
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my request was denied...