Does anyone have any suggestions for practicing the 8 precepts all the time in lay life?
Goofaholix wrote:Do it while living in a monastery or retreat centre, that's what they're designed for.
R1111 wrote:Contemplating and coming to agreement is helpful, contemplating body, contemplating sensuality, contemplating death, studying and remembering helps. Not seeing women,not talking to women helps alot. Not visiting people inclined on breaking those precepts helps alot as well.
Not worrying about breaking precepts helps, so does not building up tension in regards to keeping the precepts. Not giving rise to feelings of exaltation (conceit) because of keeping precepts helps. Reflecting on intentions helps, reflecting on benefits of abstaining helps. Meditation helps, seclusion helps and mindfulness is always helpful. Association with good friends helps.
"And how does a monk guard the doors of his senses? On seeing a form with the eye, he does not grasp at any theme or details by which — if he were to dwell without restraint over the faculty of the eye — evil, unskillful qualities such as greed or distress might assail him. On hearing a sound with the ear... On smelling an odor with the nose... On tasting a flavor with the tongue... On touching a tactile sensation with the body... On cognizing an idea with the intellect, he does not grasp at any theme or details by which — if he were to dwell without restraint over the faculty of the intellect — evil, unskillful qualities such as greed or distress might assail him. Endowed with this noble restraint over the sense faculties, he is inwardly sensitive to the pleasure of being blameless. This is how a monk guards the doors of his senses. (source: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html)
manas wrote:So long as practising eight precepts does not inconvenience anyone else (for example, if not consuming food after midday leaves someone too tired to work, or care for dependents), then I can't see why ANY layperson should not undertake them, so long as doing so improves their practice of the dhamma. Why not?
"Lord, what course should we follow with regard to womenfolk?""Not-seeing, Ananda""But when there is seeing, lord, what course should be followed?""Not-addressing, Ananda.""But when we are addressed, what course should be followed?""Mindfulness should be established, Ananda."
Goofaholix wrote:If you prefer to not eat dinner then just don't eat dinner, if you prefer to sleep on hard beds and not watch tv and not wear makeup or jewelry and not have sex then just don't do those things, there is no need to be all religious about it and pretend like you're a monastic. It then follows that there'll be no need to beat yourself up about it if you need to compromise at times as it's not about morality but simplifying your life.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:This comment is unhelpful.
Some lay meditators may want to refine their morality to aid the development of concentration and insight.
ganegaar wrote:The actual pali word to the precept is "vicala bojanan...", which has literal meaning, "no eating at in-appropriate times", or practically, "not eating on times that are not 'eating times'". . Wonder what other practitioners would think of this?
philosopher wrote:My aspiration over the last couple of years has been to follow the 8 precepts perfectly, but I find it difficult without the support or camaraderie of anyone else. But because they run so counter to mainstream society, it'd be great to have a "support group" of sorts. Any suggestions? I try to just read as much dhamma as I can since this helps a lot. And over the years, seeing the negative effects of breaking them and how doing so disturbs blissful states of peace has also been helpful.
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