But the person who does plastic surgery knows his/her lips are false yet she shows them to other people as if they are real, right?
If they tell
people they're real, they are lying. What if they openly told anyone who asks, that they've had surgery on them to make them look better? Are they still deceitful? I'd argue not. Similarly with people who wear makeup. I don't think I've ever met any woman wearing makeup who would deny the fact when asked. Thus they're not lying.
Even if they were
to lie in this way, it wouldn't necessarily fit the Buddha's stock definition of false speech
AN 10.176 PTS: A v 263
Cunda Kammaraputta Sutta: To Cunda the Silversmith
translated from the Pali by
"There is the case where a certain person engages in false speech. When he has been called to a town meeting, a group meeting, a gathering of his relatives, his guild, or of the royalty [i.e., a royal court proceeding], if he is asked as a witness, 'Come & tell, good man, what you know': If he doesn't know, he says, 'I know.' If he does know, he says, 'I don't know.' If he hasn't seen, he says, 'I have seen.' If he has seen, he says, 'I haven't seen.' Thus he consciously tells lies for his own sake, for the sake of another, or for the sake of a certain reward."
As posted above, four conditions need to be met in order to break fourth precept. Others understand what was said is the last condition. If there is someone, for example experiences accident, the result is that person is unable to talk, no one knows whether s/he can understand words or not. If someone says something false to that person, is that considered lying or not?
Does anyone know if all conditions need to be met are only written in the commentary or in the original Vinaya/ Precepts?
As above, the Buddha doesn't give this definition for the fourth precept. The only definition in the suttas of false speech that I'm aware of is the one I've already quoted. Therefore, they'd have to be lying to an assembly of people, so the disabled person wouldn't be the only witness.
The other aspects of verbal misconduct, detailed in the link above, seem to me to be much more kammically important and relevant to this thread than wearing makeup etc., which is clearly covered under the seventh precept in the attha-sila.
These are divisive speech, abusive speech, and idle chatter.
Cormac Brown wrote:
Nevertheless, it's not a recommended career choice. Fiction writing, the same. Not great but not lying per se.
Can you provide a reference if they are not recommended for career choice?
I could, but the Buddha twice refused to answer the actor who asked him about the destination in the future life of those in his profession. Let's just say that I was on course for a career as an actor and I put a stop to it.
I'm only guessing that something similar applies to fiction writing.